Eternal suffering is not Literal
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Truth is never crap. I proved my words out of the bible.
way 2 go
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more confession through projection
Mat 25:46 These people will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life."
And i showed you the true God and his justice. Makes eternal suffering an impossibility--The true God = Love, merciful, forgiving--not a sadist.
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no , you have shown you don't know how to interpret scripture
and I provided a verse that needs no interpretation it literally has Jesus saying "eternal punishment"
which contradicts your OP
Mat 25:46 These people will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life."
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next up flat earth
Ok you serve your non existent sadist i will serve YHWH(Jehovah) the God of love, mercy and forgiveness-The one who set this before all mankind-Life or death-Deut 30:19--His word teaches. His word goes forth and does not come back undone. There is no life in death. Nor knowledge, or wisdom or anything.
Here is an NT teaching about the place of eternal suffering proving it is symbolism--It says its a place where the worm dieth not---No worm could live an hour in a hot firey place, It does however live 6 feet under.
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you serve a false god
and you don't understand scripture
Eph_2:1 And He has made you alive, who were once dead in trespasses and sins,
you're still dead in your trespasses and sins and not 6 feet under
Rev 20:12 I saw the dead, both unimportant and important, standing in front of the throne, and books were open. Another book was opened—the Book of Life. The dead were judged according to their actions, as recorded in the books.
Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and Death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and all were judged according to their actions.
the above verse has the dead standing before the throne which is where your headed , dead and still existing.
you don't have an answer for this verse
Mat 25:46 These people will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life."
Both men are evil for grabbing women!. Neither is named Trump.
Who is more evil?, it remains to be seen. The first man has been tested and failed. He kept a woman against her will to satisfy his own. The second man has not been so tested, so you cannot fairly compare the two. We do not know how he will handle rejection. We only know how he responds when things go his way.
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If you command your child not to go near the pool when nobody is around, but they do, fall in, and drown, is that justice?
Yes it is.
The parameters were set in place and disobeyed.
1 + 1 = 2, justice.
Arthur Brain
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Erm, no it isn't, it's tragic. It's bad parenting to allow a child to go near a pool where they could potentially drown without supervision, regardless of whether you 'commanded' them to go near it or not.
Wow, this is actually sick as all get out.
You seem to value authority over reason.
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Nope... Jesus did NOT say that He was not good. Jesus is God and Jesus is good.
ok doser
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I didn't come up with it. Someone else did.
I was literally agreeing with you in my previous post. Now you're saying you were wrong?
The place where God isn't.
That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
People who reject God will be happier for eternity there in the place that God isn't than if they were to be forced to live with Him for eternity.
God casting people into the lake of fire is Him facilitating their going to that place.
The decision to go there is made final at the time of one's death.
You say my analogy doesn't work, yet even you agree that it would be wrong for someone to force someone else to live with him, and to not allow them escape. So why would it be OK for God to force those who don't want to be in God's presence, who hate Him, to be remain in His presence for all eternity?
Corinthians agrees with Romans 1 and Psalm 19. I'm not sure why you're trying to pit scripture against scripture.
So you're saying Jesus was wrong when He said Matthew 25:46?
What about the people who don't want to live with God for eternity? Where is He supposed to put them?
I get your aversion to the first man grabbing the woman. It shows your conscience isn't completely seared.
A man cannot grab the woman who loves him?
This is the Religion section, not Politics.
The point of the analogy is to show you that God is the second man, healthy in his mind, who will allow the woman to, if she so chooses, leave him, and that He is not the first man, who keeps people against their will.
God will not keep people against their will, He will not force them to live in heaven for all of eternity with Him, since they hate Him.
So where is God supposed to put those people?
Yes the parameters have been set--Life or death is the choice given to all-Deut 30:19