Enyart's Show

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SUTG

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Yer kiddin'!! Bob was married three times!! :darwinsm:

My hypocracy meter is going crazy!
 

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Justin (Wiccan) said:
Yeah, that one got me, too.



I do also have to mention this--many Christians will see the second marriage, divorce, and remarriage to Cheryl (herself divorced as well) as a violation of the "husband of one wife" statements in the Bible. Has this been discussed in anyof Bob's public works, and should that be mentioned (or, at least, a link to the information)?

"Husband of one wife" means just that, not married to more than one woman at a time.
 

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Justin (Wiccan) said:
I do also have to mention this--many Christians will see the second marriage, divorce, and remarriage to Cheryl (herself divorced as well) as a violation of the "husband of one wife" statements in the Bible. Has this been discussed in anyof Bob's public works, and should that be mentioned (or, at least, a link to the information)?

Bob does have a video for sale, I believe it's simply called "Divorce and Remarriage." I have not seen the video in its entirety, so I cannot comment at this time as to the contents of the video.

Here is where you can buy the video if you are interested:
http://kgov.com/store/video.html
 
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Justin (Wiccan) said:
There is a fairly brief bibliography at Wikipedia. It is not entirely complementary, but to the best of my knowledge it is accurate within reason.
The very first sentence is innacurate. It says Bob was born in 1957. The correct year is 1959.
 

Justin (Wiccan)

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Shimei said:
"Husband of one wife" means just that, not married to more than one woman at a time.

I know, Shimei--it's not my gripe, actually, it's my Dad's. He's talking about Mark 10:11, but you have to remember--that passage is not in my Book of Shadows. ;)
 

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Justin (Wiccan) said:
There is a fairly brief bibliography at Wikipedia. It is not entirely complementary, but to the best of my knowledge it is accurate within reason.
The number of false statements in this article is just completely amaturish to the point of being highschoolish.

born 1957
The correct year is 1959.

He claims to have converted to Christianity at age 16, but never acted on his new faith until the 1980s.
He was a teenage evangelist in highschool converting many of his fellow students and family members. His group of Christian friends would all go to different churches on (either Sunday nights or Wednesday nights, perhaps both). Their group was so large their numbers would often be larger than the rest of the usual attendees meaning their presence would often double the average attendance.

Enyart advocates the death penalty for offenses such as ...feminism.
That's just plain slander.

During his show's nationwide run, Enyart began co-habitating with Cheryl Mayns
More lies. More slander.

Enyart was arrested in 1994 and ultimately convicted of misdemeanor child abuse in the beating of Mayns' son Steven (then age 7) with a leather belt. The beating left bruises, cuts, and welts on the boy's buttocks.
There are 2 falsehoods in this sentence. First, it wasn't a "beating" it was a spanking. Second, the photos of the "injuries" were blown up by something like a magnitude of 25 times in order for any redness at all to be seen.

The publicity from the trial combined with mounting criticism of Enyart's extremist right wing views led LeSea to drop Enyart's show in 1995.
The show was dropped because another ministry offered LeSea money for the air time. Enyart's show was so popular that it was bringing in tons of new viewers. For that reason alone LeSea decided it would be worth it to just give Enyart free air time since many of the new viewers would stick around and watch more of LeSea's shows. But when a new ministry called LeSea and offered money for the time slot, Enyart's ministry could not match it because such a large percentage of his viewers were nonchristian and additionally Bob is lousy at fundraising. He absolutely hates asking for money because it feels like begging to him and it goes against his "protestant work ethic." So since he hated asking for money so much, he didn't do it and when he did do it, he had no heart in it so he was lousy at it. The end result was that he could not raise nearly enough money to match the offer of the other ministry. That's why he went off the air.

Locally, Enyart leads regular protests in front of a Dairy Queen restaurant owned by the wife of pro-choice Colorado Senator Ken Salazar.
Well, if you want to call 2 protests "regular." Maybe it was 3? If you want to mention regular protests then talk about the regular protests they do in front of an abortionist's home every holiday.

Elsewhere, Enyart led protests outside the Florida hospice where Terri Schiavo was taken off her feeding tube.
Enyart wasn't even there. Doug McBurney, a member of Bob's church was there and that was his own idea, not Enyart's.
 

docrob57

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SUTG said:
Yer kiddin'!! Bob was married three times!! :darwinsm:

My hypocracy meter is going crazy!

What hypocricy. I know that Mr. Enyart does not claim to be sinless or perfect, nor do I or any Christian. It is you folks who keep telling us that we believe that, but we don't.
 

louhardt

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re: wikipedia bio

re: wikipedia bio

not sure what it means to have a wikipedia account unless that means you are able to actually edit what is there. Perhaps, if it is in error re: the cohabitation versus marriage, just perhaps someone ought to correct the statement. Some dates would probably do it.

I, too, am quite curious about Mr. Enyart. So, then, was it the porn, the cohabitating, or his work with Operation Rescue that caused the downfall of not one but two marriages?

Never fear, I have no desire to 'bring down' someone that is obviously held in high regard on this site. I am just asking for my own enlightenment.
 

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Enyart bio

Enyart bio

Jadant said:
Actually, there is a short bio on his site, found here:
http://www.enyart.com/about/bob.shtml


Yes, I would say a short one! I don't se any mention of one wife much less 3; or the mention of one child abuse arrest, much less two. (I know! it was discipline. But since people know about it the bio would be the best place to dispute it.)

Actually, I thought the c.a. incidents were later. I read where he was released from jail after 60 days in May 1999. That would have been the same year he was ordained? And if he became pastor of DBC in 2000 and DBC STARTED in 2000 would that not mean that he was at least instrumental in its beginnings?

I am soooo confuzzed!!!
 

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Mr. Enyart's bio

Mr. Enyart's bio

louhardt said:
Yes, I would say a short one! I don't se any mention of one wife much less 3; or the mention of one child abuse arrest, much less two. (I know! it was discipline. But since people know about it the bio would be the best place to dispute it.)

Actually, I thought the c.a. incidents were later. I read where he was released from jail after 60 days in May 1999. That would have been the same year he was ordained? And if he became pastor of DBC in 2000 and DBC STARTED in 2000 would that not mean that he was at least instrumental in its beginnings?

I am soooo confuzzed!!!

I am wrong again! Yes, it did mention a failed marriage. But it didn't explain 'poor husband'. That can cover a lot!

One thing I did pick up on the last time I read it. How would he have 'been qualified' to host a liberal show in years past?
 
Shimei said:
"Husband of one wife" means just that, not married to more than one woman at a time.

I don't agree with that, if you ask me, divorcing is a huge offense if kids are involved. You can totally screw a kid up with that kind of confusion. And if you think about the nature of the marriages of that time...no contraception so kids with marriage are a given'.
 

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Justin (Wiccan) said:
I do also have to mention this--many Christians will see the second marriage, divorce, and remarriage to Cheryl (herself divorced as well) as a violation of the "husband of one wife" statements in the Bible. Has this been discussed in anyof Bob's public works, and should that be mentioned (or, at least, a link to the information)?
Yep. See http://www.kgov.com/store/detail/video/divorce.html
 

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beefalobilly said:
I don't agree with that, if you ask me, divorcing is a huge offense if kids are involved. You can totally screw a kid up with that kind of confusion. And if you think about the nature of the marriages of that time...no contraception so kids with marriage are a given'.

You don't agree with what the verse says?

True, divorce can totally screw up a kids life. God hates divorce, but in certain cases, it happens. Just because a man is divorced, it doesn't mean that he can never become a pastor.

BTW, Bob Enyart did not rush into becoming a pastor after his last divorce.
 

taoist

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Guilty, as charged ... this time, anyway. But Bob's insistence that this "one man, one woman" thing has been working just great for 6,000 years or whatever is just annoying to anyone who's actually read the bible.

Oh yeah, and lighten up, dudes.
 
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