ENEMIES OF THE FAITH ARE RAMPANT THROUGHOUT CHRISTENDOM.

Grosnick Marowbe

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GT doesn't know:

1) How to Rightly Divide the word.
2) How to interpret the Gospel.
3) How to listen and learn.
4) How to discern.
5) How to handle her emotions.
6) How to take herself less serious.
7) How to get along with her fellow posters.
8) How to admit when she's wrong.
9) How to handle her jealousies.
10)How to take a joke.
11)How to make a joke.
12)How to handle her anger issues.
13)How to act civil.
14)How to add to a discussion.
15)How to keep her composure under stress.
 

God's Truth

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Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Paul's Gospel, the one he received from the Ascended Lord Jesus Christ, preaches "Faith alone without works" of any kind. Once one hears the Gospel they must make a decision to place their faith in Christ as their Savior. That is the ONLY prerequisite. Once they've done that, the Holy Spirit seals and indwells them and baptizes them (not by water) into the Body of Christ. It's ALL a Spiritual process that takes place. We also will inherit eternal life and we receive the Righteousness of Christ. We are considered to be free of sin in the Spiritual sense. However, we still have to walk around planet earth in our fleshly habitation and therefore, are capable of being disobedient to God as long as we are in the flesh. That's why God reserves the right to "Discipline His own." We, as part of the Body of Christ, will not face condemnation nor judgement and eternal damnation. After all, we are a Child of God.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,

A "Child of God" need not be concerned with losing their eternal life. They are sealed by the Holy Spirit and cannot be unsealed. A TRUE Believer can't lose their salvation.
 

heir

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Prove that I told anyone ever that they had to get circumcised in the flesh.

Prove it now or concede.
You don't. You tell us all we have to obey, obey, obey. You know not what and you're not telling anyone.

Show where Paul rebukes anyone for obeying Jesus too much.

You will never ever find that.
for placing themselves back under the law: Galatians 3:1-3 KJV, Galatians 3:10 KJV, Galatians 5:1 KJV, Galatians 5:4 KJV
 

God's Truth

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You don't. You tell us all we have to obey, obey, obey. You know not what and you're not telling anyone.

for placing themselves back under the law: Galatians 3:1-3 KJV, Galatians 3:10 KJV, Galatians 5:1 KJV, Galatians 5:4 KJV

The new law does not tell people we no longer have to obey.

Where do you get such an idea as obeying God has been done away with?

We have to obey God as always.
 

heir

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The new law does not tell people we no longer have to obey.

Where do you get such an idea as obeying God has been done away with?

We have to obey God as always.
Do it Matthew 6:25 KJV!

Do you think about what you will eat or drink? How about what you will wear?

Do it! Matthew 10:10 KJV

Do you have money in your purse? Have more than one purse? More than one coat? Imelda Marcos when it comes to shoes? Pack a suitcase for a trip?
 
People seem to dance around the subject of legalism. Simply, we are called to obedience, this true, but, to the Christian, this is distinct from being under the law. Read Romans 6. Obedience, in Christian terms, is a turning away from sin, being in a state of repentance, empowered by the Holy Spirit in our hearts, helping us to see and hear the things of God, to seek righteousness and truth: this involves a living faith, not some self-righteous, spiritually dead man, trying to keep an Old Testament checklist, which was only delivered to Israel, in the first place.

There's no such thing as self-righteousness, before Holy God. To the Christian, obedience involves walking in the light of Christ as a new creature, born of the Holy Spirit, and our final perfection when we are glorified in His presence, having shed our bodies of flesh, corruption putting on incorruption, 1 Corinthians 15:50.

None of this is rocket science in scripture. It is also clear that anybody preaching a works gospel, where salvation is not the gift of God's grace and our righteousness not the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ, is teaching a false gospel, which is accursed. You who believe you have self-righteousness, you may consider it's not such a good state, being accursed.

Galatians 1

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Notice how doctrines of devils, or demons, relate directly to legalistic religion:

1 Timothy 4

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
 
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God's Truth

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Do it Matthew 6:25 KJV!

Do you think about what you will eat or drink? How about what you will wear?

Do it! Matthew 10:10 KJV

Do you have money in your purse? Have more than one purse? More than one coat? Imelda Marcos when it comes to shoes? Pack a suitcase for a trip?

Jesus gives understanding to those who obey him.

The first scripture you referenced is about not worrying and God will always help you, as long as you put God first.

The second scripture you referenced is about the twelve going out to preach while laying the foundation, and how people should offer them something to eat after they preach to them.

How do you get that these things should not be followed?
 

heir

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Jesus gives understanding to those who obey him.

The first scripture you referenced is about not worrying and God will always help you, as long as you put God first.

The second scripture you referenced is about the twelve going out to preach while laying the foundation, and how people should offer them something to eat after they preach to them.

How do you get that these things should not be followed?
The point is, you don't DO what the Lord commanded in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. You, who claims it's all written TO you and that we must OBEY it; do not DO it yourself! So much for:

We have to obey God as always.
 
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