Dumocracy rules!
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e4e ---- Not so! A republic is a nation of law equally applied regardless of the will of the majority. A democracy bends at the will of the majority at the expense of equal justice under the law. There is a tremendous difference between the two. :doh:
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e4e ---- Not so! A republic is a nation of law equally applied regardless of the will of the majority. A democracy bends at the will of the majority at the expense of equal justice under the law. There is a tremendous difference between the two. :doh:
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e4e---------- That is the problem. The constitution put limits on the power of government to change the rules. The government disregarded the limitations and the people approved of the changes the government unconstitutionally made because there pockets were lined at the expense of the taxpayer. The average American citizen likes the idea of being wards of the state. The people and the government are are lawless and that with the approval of the church which is also lawless. I guess democracy is a good word then in that a democracy is basically lawless.
e4e---------- That is the problem. The constitution put limits on the power of government to change the rules. The government disregarded the limitations and the people approved of the changes the government unconstitutionally made because there pockets were lined at the expense of the taxpayer. The average American citizen likes the idea of being wards of the state. The people and the government are are lawless and that with the approval of the church which is also lawless. I guess democracy is a good word then in that a democracy is basically lawless.
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So, the hijacking of the American government by the socialist and fascist is acceptable to you Jefferson?
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That means we ought to huddle in a corner and cower like dogs. right.
Of course not. I'm in favor of a Constitutional Monarchy with the Bible being the basis of the constitution. This would (among many other things) codify a flat income tax of no more than 9% since I Samuel 8 considers a 10% tax to be tyrannical. This, by the way, is a much less socialist tax rate than your beloved Republican form of government imposes on you every year.
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Jefferson
e4e ----- That is what you have now.
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e4e --------You may have to wait a while on that part.
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e4e-------- there is no constitutional authority for a personal income tax of any Kind. There is no justification for an income tax, PERIOD!
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e4e ------- Please do not associate the republic with these socialist and fascist taxes.
e4e ----- That is what you have now.
Jefferson
e4e --------You may have to wait a while on that part.
Jefferson
e4e-------- there is no constitutional authority for a personal income tax of any Kind. There is no justification for an income tax, PERIOD!
Jefferson
e4e ------- Please do not associate the republic with these socialist and fascist taxes.
e4e, just to let you know, as Milton Friedman, Walter Williams, and Thomas Sowell will tell you - there is only one tax, and that is the income tax. Despite what the constitution says, reality says that the income tax is the tax we should be using if we want to tax fairly.
Which is the most correct? How would you evaluate that?
Because the majority of Christians would prefer to not understand God. If you ever read the law, I'll bet *you* could understand it.
Ummm... nice obfuscation. I'll answer you when you go back answer what I actually wrote.
Huh?
It's the foundation of the legal code. Isn't the foundation at least enough to *start* with? Sheesh.
Like I said, I'm answering rather directly, aren't I? Aren't these forums text out for public discussion? Again, I think you protest too much.
Right. That's my point.
That would be a good thing to check out. Where I do find such a society?
First, slavery has a specific understanding here in the US, and that is slavery for life based on skin color. So to separate that kind of slavery and the kind of slavery SG would propose, we use a different term. That being "indentured servitude". Please don't confuse things on purpose.
The basis isn't just to be consistent with God's law. It is also based on having a fair society. Since the King probably won't care what God thinks, but since we would expect him to follow the law (one would hope he would see the benefit to himself and his kingdom of not having anarchy), then we can properly call it a civil matter.
I was talking about back when the country was first founded and most of the maturely settled areas were "low crime".
Dude, you place to much weight on minor speculation. What if NO ONE in the United States can get a job, what then? What if all the nursing mothers run dry, what then? What if everyone feels like being mean, what then? What if no one can find a way to cope, what then?
Look, everyone can find a way to survive if they try. Besides, the government can't help even if it wanted to.
Guess. I'm only asking because I don't think you understand my side of the argument. And here's a hint to help you out. “The ten commandments.” Now, mind you, that's only a hint, so don't take that as the sum total of the law.
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Yorzhik
e4e.-------- Each of these use a socialist model of wealth redistribution. Like Robin Hood. Steal from the rich to subsidize the the unproductive dredge of society. The American model, give it to me because I deserve it regardless if my choices state otherwise. The socialist model steel from Harry to pay Paul regardless if Paul needs his income to support his family. Socialist economics is a race to the bottom and cannot be sustained. In other words commit legal theft.
e4e.-------- Each of these use a socialist model of wealth redistribution. Like Robin Hood. Steal from the rich to subsidize the the unproductive dredge of society. The American model, give it to me because I deserve it regardless if my choices state otherwise. The socialist model steel from Harry to pay Paul regardless if Paul needs his income to support his family. Socialist economics is a race to the bottom and cannot be sustained. In other words commit legal theft.
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I just don't know how to answer! You're so 180 degrees out that I can't believe it. Please pause in this conversation and read a bit. There is enough on the internet for you to get an idea how much these 3 propose a socialist model.
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