ECT Does Romans 9 support Individual Election?

[SaulToPaul 2]

D'ism is obstinate and rebellious about the bible.

Extremely thick irony...

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

These are all passages about which RD is too busy putting others down as foolish instead of commenting, for about 2 years now. What does that tell you?

More irony. Read my signature.

 

[musterion]

Extremely thick irony...

Thicker than 80 weight oil in January.

 

[Interplanner]

Not just foolish, it's blasphemous because it says God lies.

God has no covenant with us Gentiles. We have grace, which is far better.

Paul said God did not lie when he said that the promise was to the Seed, meaning one person, which is Christ. That's why God did not lie.

You don't know your NTs and you don't care.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Paul said God did not lie when he said that the promise was to the Seed, meaning one person, which is Christ. That's why God did not lie.

You don't know your NTs and you don't care.

This was the "promise of the Spirit" if you would bother to read Galatians.

 

[Interplanner]

Must wrote:
Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
Not just foolish, it's blasphemous because it says God lies.

God has no covenant with us Gentiles. We have grace, which is far better.


This is anti-semitic. Why would "God" (Must's god, not mine) do this to Israel? Does anyone in the room actually think this sounds the way the NT does?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Must wrote:
Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
Not just foolish, it's blasphemous because it says God lies.

God has no covenant with us Gentiles. We have grace, which is far better.


This is anti-semitic. Why would "God" (Must's god, not mine) do this to Israel? Does anyone in the room actually think this sounds the way the NT does?

How?

 

[Right Divider]

Nope, the other party in the Jer passage is the THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. Guess who? The other party in Heb 9 interp of Heb 8 (instead of the D'ist interp) is that a body had been prepared for sacrifice instead of 'sacrifices and offerings.'

You must NOT be a real READER and grammar scholar.

Jer 31:31-34 (KJV)​

(31:31) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: (31:32) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: (31:33) But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. (31:34) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. ​

 

[Nang]

You must NOT be a real READER and grammar scholar.

Jer 31:31-34 (KJV)​

(31:31) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: (31:32) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: (31:33) But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. (31:34) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. ​

Hebrews 3:1-6

 

[Interplanner]

You must NOT be a real READER and grammar scholar.

Jer 31:31-34 (KJV)​

(31:31) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: (31:32) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: (31:33) But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. (31:34) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. ​

Unfortunately you have loaded this with your interp, RD. The interp I follow is what the rest of Heb 9-10 says which has no interest in the land, espcially not in that generation when they knew it would be decimated.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Unfortunately you have loaded this with your interp, RD. The interp I follow is what the rest of Heb 9-10 says which has no interest in the land, espcially not in that generation when they knew it would be decimated.

:doh:

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Unfortunately you have loaded this with your interp, RD.

There is nothing to "interp".
Believe it.

 

[Right Divider]

Hebrews 3:1-6

That does NOT change the promise of the new covenant to Israel.

THEIR FATHERS.

P.S. "whose house we are" refers to the HEBREWS.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

That does NOT change the promise of the new covenant to Israel.

THEIR FATHERS.

P.S. "whose house we are" refers to the HEBREWS.

Yeah, I was scratching my head at how Hebrews 3 allegedly makes the New Covenant for her.

 

[Right Divider]

Unfortunately you have loaded this with your interp, RD.

NOPE, I actually take it the EXACT way that it is WRITTEN.

You're the scripture misinterper.

 

[musterion]

(Must's god, not mine)

Thank you for finally clarifying that one of us is bound for the Lake of Fire.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

You're the scripture misinterper.

He cannot figure out how to get saved without the New Covenant. The result is a complete warping of scripture to somehow include himself in it.

Sad, and pathetic.

 

[musterion]

I'm getting slow. Didn't catch this gem at first.

Why would "God" (Must's god, not mine) do this to Israel?

Oh wow, look who's suddenly all concerned about the welfare of Israel.

What a crock. There's no way he believes anything he spews.

 

[Right Divider]

He cannot figure out how to get saved without the New Covenant. The result is a complete warping of scripture to somehow include himself in it.

Sad, and pathetic.

Him and so many others here that cannot accept simple truth.

 

[Nang]

P.S. "whose house we are" refers to the HEBREWS.

No, it refers to Christ's church, in which abide Jews as well as Greeks without racial distinction. Galatians 3:26-29