Sonnet
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I know you are going to get sick of me doing this, but I don't mess with the flesh of scripture.
If I read scripture in the flesh, I'm sewing to my flesh.
*. Here's a mystery for you, if spiritual people read the bible to know God, then why do people assume that people who read the bible are reading the world in context of people who don't read the bible? And again, why do people assume people have to read the bible and know the name of God to know God, when people before Moses had no scripture?
I too never understood every little law and difference.
Then I read the most important scripture of all.
John 5:39
You pore over the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, yet they testify about Me.
........... Then it hit me! I had been reading the Bible like a Pharisee. I wasn't looking for Jesus.
Because the bible is a compilation of books and letters that span 1000's of years, it is unique to any other religious text.
Jesus blew everything out of the water when He said that to the Pharisees.
Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducees collectively, when He said this. The very fact that it made it to the Gospels means it was the talk of the town.
You probably know the old scholar trick to distinguish the Calvinism and Armeninism of the day. Both camps had poured over doctrines of men and generated more doctrines of men to the point that they had taken the scriptures of their time and created divisions.
Consider the Nazerines, Pharisees, Sadducees and so on.
History has simply repeated itself.
But, the old trick is to say; The fair-a-sees were fair you see, because they stressed laws upon laws and believed in life after death, but the sad-u-sees were sad you see, because they only believed in one go at life and then nothing.
~So, first and foremost, Jesus was being slick and spiritually revealing he was God. He just said; That book is about me. Every word of it is a reference to me and me above all.
~Secondly, He was ridiculing the fact that the biblical scholars couldn't recognize the very God they supposedly revered, as He stood there, in the flesh, before them. The living Scripture (Word) of God was right there, and they were blind as goodness.
~Third, He was pointing out that they read the TaNaKh as mere rules to live by.
- Forth, He was pointing out that the Pharisees followed those rules for self righteousness and eternal life, while the Sadducees followed the rules out of self righteousness and the belief that God was going to come in flesh to exonerate and free Israel from the clutches of her enemies and become the King of the world through force. Israel was prophesied to rule over the nations and they thought God would come with war and crown Israel the center of the known world.
**- Fifth, He was telling them that He was the provider of eternal life, and no Law would ever save them. He was showing them as He had saved them from Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Greece; He was their salvation alone to true eternal life and union with Him. They always wanted to put the glory on themselves, when the glory has always belonged to God.
What does this have to do with the price of bacon in Israel in the context of your push back to the inconsistency of scripture?
Everything! Every inconsistency is there as a flag. It's Jesus saying, pay close attention, I'm teaching you about my kingdom.
David ended up trading all of His women for one that was the wife of one of his "mighty men".
*(I'm editing this in. The Dragon was a strong man of God, and he's used the Law of Freewill to bare disobedience in Eve (all of us). He essentially married Eve in the Garden, though God was still the Groom to be. This parallels the story of David. Consider the still born, first child of Bathsheba, and the following miracle of Solomon.... Again with a reference to the unloving, spiritually dead.)
*** He (David) is the picture of Jesus unifying all children of Eve into one body.
The polyandry or polygamy is a reference to the children of Eve being married to many different gods, but a vision of the entire body of humanity only truly belonging to One.
Solomon drives this home further as He is the ultimate picture of Jesus and His temple an ultimate picture of God. Consider the 7's that become overly redundant in His temple. 7 steps to His throne. Seven servants and such. He had women of many different gods under His roof, unified by marriage to Him.
Solomon's song is a picture of God spiritually pining for all of humanity as His cherished bride. It speaks of so much Jesus verbiage, that it is dizzying.
To intensify this theme, we can see the Prophet Hosea being married to an unfaithful bride. This entire theme is about our spiritual unfaithfulness to God and His constant forgiveness of our blunder.
Consider Judah, who was about to burn his daughter-in-law Tamar for whoring around, when she produces his staff, signet ring and such, and he instantly recognizes her as the woman he thought was a prostitute at the gates and clearly made a baby with.
Consider how the ark is Jesus preserving humanity over the waters of hate and wickedness that swept the violent away.
Consider how the second born son is forever getting the inheritance, just like the second Adam and the Second covenant of Law (Love and Free Will through Jesus).
Second born sons that won.... Able, David the second King of Israel, but his Son built the temple, Isaac, Jacob (Israel)...... There are so many analogies like this in the OT that it is ridiculous!
The Patriarchy and seeming unfairness to women wasn't to decree double standards.
Paul fixes this when he binds man and wife together with each sacrificing for the other out of Love and crowning the man as King, but binding him to the obligation of Loving her unto death as Christ, which again shows every word about marriage in the bible throws light on Jesus.
Think Ruth and her kinsman redeemer Boaz.
The red cord of inheritance is a picture of Jesus, and every protective entitlement of the OT refers to Jesus.
Consider Esther. She is the Bride and Haman is a picture of the dark prince, who had authority by the King.
It's all a spiritual book that shows us that every Loving act of hope is from God and every dark act of death is from the free will Angels and men of creation exalting their free will to betray God.
How about the violence of God in the OT? It is a response to wickedness that is born of hate and destruction within men and Angels that would grow to distort God into the kind of God that would ask child sacrifice and breed violence that would eat away at the existence of mankind.
God has no religion but Love.
We were naked, in the Garden of God and given only two commands.
Have lots of fun in the Garden to make babies and don't eat of the tree of God. (Dad's tree was available to us to show that God is no tyrant, and He didn't want us to have Him as our servant King out of force.). We were given the option to serve creation amongst ourselves instead of trust good old Dad. Upon the desire of the Dragon to rule and our curiosity to rule, that was encouraged by the dragon, we elected creation over the Creator.
If you want an answer to your question about morality, you'll have to go to a Pharisee, but if you want an answer from one of His disciples, like yourself, keep pressing me. Be brutal! Throw the b.s. Flag, but don't give up.
I will take it and respect you more for it.
You have His Spirit. Yes, I know. So what if your faith is lacking! Love is more important than faith according to the apostle Paul, so you, my good friend are better for relationship than the brick and mortar that feed off of regurgitated food that has been eaten and vomited for over 2000 years.
You have Faith, Hope and Love.
According to Paul you are already bearing fruit and are bearing the most sacred fruit of All. LOVE! You are living proof of your premise that the Living God is so much bigger than the lies about a Daddy that created some children to Glorify and some children to suffer eternal torture.
That's Satan's smear campaign. Who is Satan?
*Besides the dragon of election and contest to the will of God, it's all who appose Love and the other fruits of the Spirit, it's all who oppose LOVE, human dignity, respect and all things peacefully unifying.
Who's morality is more genuine? A person who is afraid of losing eternal life and burning in an "artificial, made up" hell that was taken from allegory, despite the many verses that show the spiritually dead and hateful that reject God to His face (Mostly religious people of pride) will be no more, or a person that doesn't believe in God at all and manifests morality out of personal integrity?
Morality and moral code are in the bible, but they are there to point out our need for dad.
It's no secret that Dad's children are screwing everything up. Violence and hate are growing. It's everywhere! Isis kills in the name of God, while professed Christians Hate in the name of God.
Churches squander money, while agnostic Bill Gates provides food and treatment for impoverished children.
This is my answer to your second inquisition. Please don't write me off. Press me harder and I will respond. Tare at me if you feel I am avoiding the question.
Consider that Paul is the elected disciple of Jesus that was discipled by the glorified Jesus. Paul spoke in such manner as Jesus, in the way he buried Spiritual truth within fleshly allegories.
He was a traveling tent maker, Roman Citizen, Pharisee of Pharisees that knew the TaNaKh by heart, and he accepted no wages for his ministry but the chopping block.
Don't let up on me, if you think I'm tap dancing, lock down, but consider that I speak differently than most for a reason, and perhaps there is more to my madness than there appears. [emoji846]
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Are you saying that there are inconsistencies in scripture?
I'm still struggling with this...perhaps we could take one point at a time?
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