I agree with some of Dispensationalism's teachings on Soteriology
Does Luke 19:44 disprove Preterism?
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I agree with some of Dispensationalism's teachings on Soteriology
whitestone
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It all depends on who your looking for and why. If your looking for the end of the world everything then begins to lead you to that. If you were looking for the one of the beast that was wounded by the sword and ascended out of the pit then you would need to find it.
If any of the beast did not bare rule over Israel "twice",,,,then they were not a kingdom that was,then was not and then ascended up out of the pit and ruled over it twice.
Make a list of every kingdom that ever ruled over Israel. Don't forget any of them,not even Israel it's self that is they also ask for a king like the other nations and in the days of Solomon were a super power, uncontested and at peace.
So, no kingdom ever ruled over Israel(12 tribes) until Egypt,then Saul the first king,then Assyria,Babylon,Persia,Greece ect.ect . Find the one that was wounded unto death,in the pit,ascended up and ruled over Israel "twice".
Everything then that you know about what took place in ad70 becomes valuable because one of those who ruled over Israel it says is "wounded unto death",then it "ascends out of the pit" and rules over Israel again.
Don't confuse the events of ad70 that are the beginning of judgment with the end of judgment. Find the one that ruled over Israel "twice",don't confuse a head receiving a wound with the sword and the kingdom of them cast in a pit. If so that you recognize the one being cast into the pit and when they received the wound you will know when they ascended out of the pit and ruled over Israel "twice".
musterion
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That says nothing. I can't think of one soteriological distinctive of dispensationalism that can't be found elsewhere. Try again...name something you agree with that is exclusive to dispensationalism.
Sure you can.
Many on TOL who are not Dispies claim they can live sin free after they are saved, that sins have to be confessed after they are committed, that they have to repent when they sin, that someone can lose their salvation with certain sins, etc.
Egypt didn't rule over the Promised Land and Jerusalem.
The only beasts that ruled over Israel/Jerusalem were Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome.
As for "being wounded unto death, in the pit, ascended up, and ruling over Israel again"......this could very well describe the 1.5 year period between Nero and Vespasian.
Nero committed suicide, Rome fell into three different civil wars, there were revolts from Judah and Gaul, and all of Rome was in turmoil.
Then the Flavian Dynasty (Vespasian, Titus, and Domitian) put an end to the revolts and brought peace back to the Roman Empire.
These events very easily could be described as the beast being thrown into the pit, and then coming back to life.
whitestone
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are you sure? seems like if the bible tells us they were in bondage in Egypt and historical documents tell us that Egypt rule included Jerusalem all at the same time then well,,,, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Kingdom_of_Egypt lol but then your the one looking for that missing beast so whose counting,,,
Name one dispensationalist on TOL, who agrees with your "argument," that you can deny that the New Covenant is in effect/enacted today, which means, according to you, that the Saviour's work is "not good enough," and still be saved.
Who were the beast and false prophet?
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
1.Damian Bullinger, and Judas Darby, the great,great, great....grandpappies of E.W. Bullinger, and John Nelson Darby, respectively?
2. Figurative....allegory....hyperbole...Of the flesh.....
SaulToPaul 2
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musterion
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See how clever he is at not answering questions? Must be a gift.
musterion
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Is Mt. Pilot Babylon the Great?
SaulToPaul 2
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I think so.
But I still say the Millenium was 1960-65 in Mayberry, before Andy went to color and changed his accent.
You really think that Mt. Pilot is literal? I was an Andy Griffith-ist, Tucker-ite for 27 years......You know the rest....You are in denial............
SaulToPaul 2
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Of course it is. Remember when Gomer drove Thelmer Lou there?
musterion
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May St. Barney, patron of wiry financial advisors, forgive you.
I say either Skippy, or Daphne, and perhaps Olive, was Jezebel, Mayor. And either Howard,or Barn were the false prophets. After all, who lives with their mother, like Howard did, and how come Fast Gun Fife did not live in a home? Thel, who had no visible means of support(except some cryptic reference of "going to the office," ala Ward Cleaver), had a home, and even Helen had one, on a school teacher's salary.
It's a mite curious....
But I still say the Millenium was 1960-62, in Mayberry, before one of Mayor Pike's daughter's morphed/"evolved" into Lydia.
I can get you into the Sims house....