ECT Do those who believe MAD have no problem disregarding what Jesus actually taught ?

[john w]

You see, saint john, we can't believe what is written...God wants us to become amateur psychologists and "figger" it out.

You're being to simplistic, Mayor. And "greek grammar" has it as Καταλαβέ. That is from "The Greek" expert, Dr. Google.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

You're being to simplistic, Mayor. And "greek grammar" has it as Καταλαβέ. That is from "The Greek" expert, Dr. Google.

Yes, being a simple simplistic simpletonian is something I inherited, my mother was the same way.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

You're being to simplistic, Mayor. And "greek grammar" has it as Καταλαβέ. That is from "The Greek" expert, Dr. Google.

I think cousin Oliver was a Greek, wasn't he?

 

[Interplanner]

re hid from the 12. That was after they knew it from the beginning. They got so excited about a miracle Messiah that that did not want to hear about a crucified one anymore. Jesus interrupted their excitement in Lk 9:43 with the first reminder.

God hid it from them after that because they would have been motivated to prevent it.

That's the 'plain meaning' of Lk 9. But if it conflicts with D'ists, all of a sudden it is not the 'plain meaning' and 'I'm not believing the Bible' and the discples are character- or nature-less.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

That's the 'plain meaning' of Lk 9. But if it conflicts with D'ists, all of a sudden it is not the 'plain meaning' and 'I'm not believing the Bible' and the discples are character- or nature-less.

Thanks Geraldo.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Luke 9
45 But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.


They were not idiots. God hid it, on purpose.

 

[dodge]

Dodge, you are not wrong in that Gentiles are ultimately included in Jesus' message.
But you are missing the fact that they are intended to be saved through the rise of Israel.

But they fell...

Missed this:


Rom 11:11
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

 

[steko]

Missed this:


Rom 11:11
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

None of us missed it. We're fully aware of it.

GOD uses the rise of Israel and also the fall of Israel to reach the nations, but during different dispensations and for different purposes.

 

[dodge]

None of us missed it. We're fully aware of it.

GOD uses the rise of Israel and also the fall of Israel to reach the nations, but during different dispensations and for different purposes.

I was responding to where STP said it was through the rise of Israel when salvation is actually through Israel's fall according to Paul.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

I was responding to where STP said it was through the rise of Israel when salvation is actually through Israel's fall according to Paul.

Rise-Prophecy
Fall-Mystery


Welcome to MAD.

 

[dodge]

Rise-Prophecy
Fall-Mystery


Welcome to MAD.

Seems all MAD MAX has to offer are divisions and distortions.


I would believe:

Rise- prophecy

Fulfillement-Salvation

 

[steko]

I was responding to where STP said it was through the rise of Israel when salvation is actually through Israel's fall according to Paul.

According to prophesy, the nations are brought into right relationship to GOD through the rise of Israel.
According to mystery(Paul), the nations are brought into right relationship to GOD through the temporary fall of Israel.
Two different programs.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Seems all MAD MAX has to offer are divisions and distortions.


I would believe:

Rise- prophecy

Fulfillement-Salvation

Brother Dodge, the MADist.

:BRAVO:

 

[dodge]

According to prophesy, the nations are brought into right relationship to GOD through the rise of Israel.
According to mystery(Paul), the nations are brought into right relationship to GOD through the temporary fall of Israel.
Two different programs.

Hello Steko ! There is only one program that was used to bring "ALL" into God's kingdom, and it was through "one Gospel" offered to everyone as in John 3:16 & John 14:6.

 

[steko]

Thanks Geraldo.

...with a hard 'G'.

 

[dodge]

Brother Dodge, the MADist.

:BRAVO:

I am your brother in Jesus NOT in the MAD beliefs.


:cheers:

 

[steko]

Hello Steko ! There is only one program that was used to bring "ALL" into God's kingdom, and it was through "one Gospel" offered to everyone as in John 3:16 & John 14:6.

Hi, Dodge!

No one is saved in all of human history apart from Christ's work on the cross, however GOD has obviously dealt with different peoples in different ways throughout that history.

In Ephesians 2, Paul divides GOD's working with humanity in three different periods....'time past', 'but now', and 'in the ages to come'.

What GOD has separated, let no man bring into conflation!

 

[dodge]

Hi, Dodge!

No one is saved in all of human history apart from Christ's work on the cross, however GOD has obviously dealt with different peoples in different ways throughout that history.

Amen.

In Ephesians 2, Paul divides GOD's working with humanity in three different periods....'time past', 'but now', and 'in the ages to come'.

What GOD has separated, let no man bring into conflation!

I agree with the above I just see the whole event being played out and won in the light of the cross-D.B.R., ascension, and return of the Lord Jesus.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

What GOD has separated, let no man bring into conflation!

Yes sir, a dollar just doesn't buy what it used to.

 

[steko]

Amen.



I agree with the above I just see the whole event being played out and won in the light of the cross-D.B.R., ascension, and return of the Lord Jesus.

So do we, but we don't disregard the obvious distinctions within the overall play out.