Do some of the Scriptural Truths offend you?

[Clete]

This is taught in several NT verses ...
Father God created all things through Jesus.
(But, Jesus did the actual creating!)

This is taught in Matthew 1 and Luke 1 ...
The Holy Spirit created Jesus, the man.
(But, Father God created Jesus through the Holy Spirit.)

So what are you suggesting? That the bible is contradictory?

I'm telling you. This is blasphemous heresy that can only possibly lead to your ruin.

The bible DOES NOT teach in Matthew 1, Luke 1 or anywhere else that Jesus was created - period. You clearly don't even know what it means for God to have created anything. Look up the term "ex nehilo". Maybe you'll get a clue. (Hint: It's not about the perfume!)

 

[Dougcho]

The bible DOES NOT teach in Matthew 1, Luke 1 or anywhere else that Jesus was created - period.
You clearly don't even know what it means for God to have created anything. Look up the term "ex nehilo".

OK, so what do you think happened when Holy Spirit put a fetus in Mary's womb?
Did He not create the fetus?
BTW ... Gabriel said to call this fetus "Jesus" and "the Son of God".
Just like he told Zechariah to call Elizabeth's fetus "John".

 

[Clete]

OK, so what do you think happened when Holy Spirit put a fetus in Mary's womb?
Did He not create the fetus?

No, not in the sense of Him having created the universe. Mary had an egg which God fertilized by some means which is not explained to us aside from it being miraculous (i.e. supernatural). The fetus certainly was not "created" (i.e. ex nihilo) though or else it wouldn't have been a human fetus.

BTW ... Gabriel said to call this fetus "Jesus" and "the Son of God".
Just like he told Zechariah to call Elizabeth's fetus "John".

So what? No one denies that "Jesus" wasn't God's name until He became flesh and dwelt among us. An argument you have been repeatedly presented with and which you completely ignore because you're a dishonest waste of time who isn't at all interested in whether your doctrine is actually correct or not. You want to believe this stupidity and so God Himself couldn't move you one single inch away from it.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was the GOD-man ...
fully God and fully man.

Correct.

This "being" was created by the Holy Spirit and the Word.

No, this is heresy!

That alone should give you pause!

My problem is ...
What really happened when the Word "became" Jesus (John 1:14)?
That sounds like all of His humanity was covered over, replaced, etc.
... and was now ONLY fully GOD!

Does anyone have any enlightenment on this?

It's called the incarnation of Christ, Doug.

The Logos became a man. He was given the name Jesus on the 8th day after his birth, according to the law.

Why you think otherwise is beyond me.

Jesus existed prior to His conception.

Why do you continue to repeat yourself as though you haven't already been addressed.

 

[Lon]

Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was the GOD-man ...
fully God and fully man.

This "being" was created by the Holy Spirit and the Word.

How? He is one being, two natures. One nature He Himself created (human), the other He always was, and all of Who He is. He became that which was from Mary whom He created and through the general avenue of human nature He had made, became flesh.

My problem is ...
What really happened when the Word "became" Jesus (John 1:14)?

The Word became, part of His creation.

That sounds like all of His humanity was covered over, replaced, etc.
... and was now ONLY fully GOD!

Philippians 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
2:7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
2:8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
That sounds like only God who is incorporeal?

Does anyone have any enlightenment on this?

Christology is the term for your query.