Do I really exist?

Bill Fortenberry

New member
How do I know?

Is there real evidence that I exist?

How can I be sure that this so called evidence is real?

I could be someone else doing the writing for me.

Is there an oatmeal?

oatmeal?

From Discourse on the Method by Rene Descartes:

"Accordingly, seeing that our senses sometimes deceive us, I was willing to suppose that there existed nothing really such as they presented to us; and because some men err in reasoning, and fall into paralogisms, even on the simplest matters of geometry, I, convinced that I was as open to error as any other, rejected as false all the reasonings I had hitherto taken for demonstrations; and finally, when I considered that the very same thoughts (presentations) which we experience when awake may also be experienced when we are asleep, while there is at that time not one of them true, I supposed that all the objects (presentations) that had ever entered into my mind when awake, had in them no more truth than the illusions of my dreams. But immediately upon this I observed that, whilst I thus wished to think that all was false, it was absolutely necessary that I, who thus thought, should be somewhat; and as I observed that this truth, I think, therefore I am, was so certain and of such evidence that no ground of doubt, however extravagant, could be alleged by the sceptics capable of shaking it, I concluded that I might, without scruple, accept it as the first principle of the philosophy of which I was in search."

Also from his Principles of Philosophy:

"While we thus reject all of which we can entertain the smallest doubt, and even imagine that it is false, we easily indeed suppose that there is neither God, nor sky, nor bodies, and that we ourselves even have neither hands nor feet, nor, finally, a body; but we cannot in the same way suppose that we are not while we doubt of the truth of these things; for there is a repugnance in conceiving that what thinks does not exist at the very time when it thinks. Accordingly, the knowledge, I think, therefore I am, is the first and most certain that occurs to one who philosophizes orderly."
 

tomlapalm

New member
If spelling is a sign of intelligence?

God has shown Himself to us in more ways. The creation shows us there is a God.
The Word tells us what He wants to say to us. The Holy Spirit shows in individually we need God and the only way to know God is by Jesus.

With you we get new words. God words are complete
 

oatmeal

Well-known member
If spelling is a sign of intelligence?

God has shown Himself to us in more ways. The creation shows us there is a God.
The Word tells us what He wants to say to us. The Holy Spirit shows in individually we need God and the only way to know God is by Jesus.

With you we get new words. God words are complete

God words are complete

Yes, God's word, the scriptures are done, they are complete, not fulfilled but complete

With you we get new words.

???
 

Angel4Truth

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Hall of Fame
How do I know?

Is there an oatmeal?

oatmeal?

yes i have proof -

quaker-instant-oatmeal-0210-s3-medium_new.jpg
 

meshak

BANNED
Banned
You exist in this world.

spiritually? that is the problem for most of us. and you are no different.
 

oatmeal

Well-known member
From Discourse on the Method by Rene Descartes:

"Accordingly, seeing that our senses sometimes deceive us, I was willing to suppose that there existed nothing really such as they presented to us; and because some men err in reasoning, and fall into paralogisms, even on the simplest matters of geometry, I, convinced that I was as open to error as any other, rejected as false all the reasonings I had hitherto taken for demonstrations; and finally, when I considered that the very same thoughts (presentations) which we experience when awake may also be experienced when we are asleep, while there is at that time not one of them true, I supposed that all the objects (presentations) that had ever entered into my mind when awake, had in them no more truth than the illusions of my dreams. But immediately upon this I observed that, whilst I thus wished to think that all was false, it was absolutely necessary that I, who thus thought, should be somewhat; and as I observed that this truth, I think, therefore I am, was so certain and of such evidence that no ground of doubt, however extravagant, could be alleged by the sceptics capable of shaking it, I concluded that I might, without scruple, accept it as the first principle of the philosophy of which I was in search."

Also from his Principles of Philosophy:

"While we thus reject all of which we can entertain the smallest doubt, and even imagine that it is false, we easily indeed suppose that there is neither God, nor sky, nor bodies, and that we ourselves even have neither hands nor feet, nor, finally, a body; but we cannot in the same way suppose that we are not while we doubt of the truth of these things; for there is a repugnance in conceiving that what thinks does not exist at the very time when it thinks. Accordingly, the knowledge, I think, therefore I am, is the first and most certain that occurs to one who philosophizes orderly."

Descartes was French wasn't he?

Too bad I don't read French
 

meshak

BANNED
Banned
We should be working for spiritual existence, if we are Jesus' followers.

The problem in the Christian community is they work so hard for the world.

Jesus' yoke is easy, if you let go of the world, it is so simple to live in this world.
 

Angel4Truth

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Hall of Fame
Thank you

Figment?

That's a funny word

fig·ment (fgmnt)
n.
Something invented, made up, or fabricated: just a figment of the imagination.
[Middle English, from Latin figmentum, from fingere, to form; see dheigh- in Indo-European roots.]
 
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