Did God become flesh?
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drbrumley
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Well, I agree, but there are posters on this site where it must be hard to understand...
drbrumley
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If you understood the triune nature, then you would not ask this question.
When the word becomes flesh in us then are we also Almighty God?
Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
LA
So you can not explain it?
glorydaz
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The Word doesn't become flesh in us, LA. :nono:
It's not hard to understand for me, but you are quite confused. So, I will explain;
John 1:1-6
In the beginning was the word (God's words/logos), and the word (God's words/logos) was with God, and the word (God's words/logos) was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by Him (God); and without Him (God) was not any thing made that was made.
4 In Him (God) was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
Your misunderstanding comes from 18 centuries of brainwashing..... and defies VAST quantities of Scripture.
glorydaz
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Jesus didn't stop being God when He shed His blood on the cross.
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
glorydaz
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You've been a JW your whole life, I'm assuming.
His name is called the Word of God. You hate that don't you? :sigh:
Please provide a text using the phrase "triune nature", or that plainly states, explains or preaches to ANY audience, ANYWHERE in the Scriptures.
Paul warned the Church about those coming, that would preach "another Jesus";
2 Cor 11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
So, since there isn't one single instance, where a Biblical teacher explained to an audience the trinitarian "Jesus", Paul is instructing us to reject that doctrine.
Nope, but I do like it when they come to my house .... sadly, they usually don't come back for several years.
Not yet. Jesus doesn't have that title until he returns to conquer the planet.glorydaz said:
When Jesus DOES have that title, it's because he is representing God's words, and fulfilling God's words. Logos simply does NOT mean "Jesus".
And, the Scriptures are VERY clear,
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
You think God has blood?? Or, is it possible, as the son of God, Jesus was his God's flesh and blood?
You see, God cannot die .... Jesus did.
Yes, it's really that simple.
glorydaz
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You forget. Paul met the Lord on the road to Damascus, and the Lord gave Paul personal revelations. Paul knew who his Lord was. He knew Jesus Christ is the "image of the invisible God", had created all things, was before all things, and by Him all things consist. Col. 1:15-17
That you remain blind to this great truth is evidence that you do not know God.
glorydaz
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About as simple as God taking on human flesh and dwelling among us, oh ye of no faith.
So you believe God was dead.
You still do not believe God was IN Christ, but rather that God IS Christ.
You are not a disciple of Christ yet, when you believe such error.
LA
glorydaz
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So you think God's words became flesh. His words died on cross and rose from the grave. Gotcha.
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glorydaz
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Don't twist my words, heathen. Try to read what is written.
The fulness of the Godhead dwelt in Christ's body of flesh, and the Scripture plainly states that you are without excuse for not admitting that.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
I'm a member of His Body, LA, which is how I know just how lost you are. :sigh:
Talk about arrogant!
Ok, here's the thing.
Just because there's an "s" at the end of a word in the Greek does not make the word plural, like it does in English.
The word "logos" is a SINGULAR noun.
"LOGOS"
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"WORD"
Nope. Word. Singular.
The Greek phrase is literally:
"THE(Article - Nominative Masculine Singular) WORD(Noun - NMS) WAS(Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 3rd person Singular) WITH(Preposition) THE(A - Accusative MS) GOD(N - AMS) AND(Conjunction) GOD(N - NMS) WAS(V - IIA - 3S) THE(A - NMS) WORD(N - NMS)"
The Word...
The Word is the subject here. "God" is part of the prepositional phrase.
Yes and no. The WORD is still the subject. God is the object of the prepositional phrase prior, "with God." Therefore, "all things were made by Him" is referring to THE WORD, HO LOGOS.
Yes, THE WORD. Without the WORD. Because God was the Word.
Still talking about the Word here... Who was and is God.
Yup. The Word is God.
Yup.
Though, 6 starts a new paragraph... so...
And you just so happen to know more about this passage than what has been accumulated over the past 18 centuries?
Pretty sure you don't.
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