keypurr
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God the Father.
He is.
No, only God the Son was dead.
God the Father and God the Holy Spirit did not die on the cross with Jesus.
God the Father.
Jesus said that He, God the Son, would raise Himself from the dead, and He did. God the Father raised God the Son from the dead.
No, God was not dead. Only God the Son was dead. God the Father and God the Holy Spirit never died.
You're the one being inconsistent, and it's showing by the errors you're making trying to show how our position is wrong.
Because God the Father raised God the Son from the dead.
God raising the dead in Christ is only tangentially related to God raising Christ from the dead.
Says the one who rips verses out of context.
Here's the rest of the quoted passage. Tell me who you think this Psalm is about:
The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”The Lord shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion. Rule in the midst of Your enemies!Your people shall be volunteers In the day of Your power; In the beauties of holiness, from the womb of the morning, You have the dew of Your youth.The Lord has sworn And will not relent, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.”The Lord is at Your right hand; He shall execute kings in the day of His wrath.He shall judge among the nations, He shall fill the places with dead bodies, He shall execute the heads of many countries.He shall drink of the brook by the wayside; Therefore He shall lift up the head. - Psalm 110:1-7 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm110:1-7&version=NKJV
If you said, "Jesus Christ, the Messiah," you're correct. Anyone else, and you'd be wrong.
Tell me, Oatsy, who's enemies will be made a footstool?
The two LORDS David spoke of is God the Father and God the Son.
God the Father said to God the Son, "sit at My right hand."
God the Father is speaking to God the Son, whom would later be called Jesus, Immanuel, Prince of Peace, Holy One, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Lion of the Tribe of Judah, and many other names.
You're dividing wrong.
The distinction is not between God and His human Son, as you imply.
The distinction is between God the Father and God the Son.
Being called the Son of God does not exclude Him from being God. The way you put it, He's either the Son of God or He's God, and you say he's not God but the Son of God. I tell you that's a false dichotomy. He is BOTH. Remember John 1:1?
The Word was with God and God was the Word.
And your denial of Christ's Godhood is blasphemous.
Says someone whom I'm starting to see as a heretic.
God the Father.
He is.
No, only God the Son was dead.
God the Father and God the Holy Spirit did not die on the cross with Jesus.
God the Father.
Philippians 2:6What say you?
Philippians 2:6
Could you reply to my previous post by responding to each of my points as I make them? or at the very least, move your answers in your above post to just below their appropriate questions?Hello? JudgeRightly?
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Evidently, you disagree with gd.
After all Philippians 2:6 does not say that Jesus Christ is fully God only that he was in the form of God.
Adam and Eve were in the form of God, after all they were created in the image of God, being in the form of God is no more being God than being in the form of God.
Adam and Eve did not have any problem thinking themselves equal to God. The talked to God and spent time with God naked and unashamedly.
For that matter since Christians have the righteousness of God, II Corinthians 5:21, they are equal to God in that respect. Christianity should have no problem talking with God either, God encourages it. Of course, doing so respectfully is the right approach, but God encourages us to open up to him, to go boldly to the throne of grace.
God expects us, as His children, to go to Him. We go boldly to the throne for we are equal to God in that respect, we do not have to make an appointment to talk to God, He is accessible to us at all times. It is not robbery for us to go to God
Does any one see the word "in" in verse 5 or is it just me?
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
IN Christ Jesus, small word, easy to overlook.
Could you reply to my previous post by responding to each of my points as I make them? or at the very least, move your answers in your above post to just below their appropriate questions?
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It makes it easier for me to respond, because I know the context of your reply.
Does any one see the word "in" in verse 5 or is it just me?
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
IN Christ Jesus, small word, easy to overlook.
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I don't know what you're imagining, Keypurr, but that simply means to be likeminded.
Phil. 2:2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
Jesus Christ was in the form of God
To be in the form of God is not more saying "is God", than being created in the image of God means "is God"
We agree friend but most do not wish to see that.
The express image of the Father is a creation for all images are creations. Col 1:15 ells you he is a creature not God.
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I am to have the mind of Christ.
You claim that Jesus knew he was fully God.
That is what was in Jesus Christ's mind
Jesus therefore must have thought, "I am fully God" in his mind.
So, since you are to have the same mind, which requires the same thoughts, you must likewise think, "I am fully God" Are you fully God?
OR is the passage about service to God, which Jesus Christ as the son of God, a man, excelled at, and we should take him as the perfect example of a man lovingly obeying God regardless of the threats and resistance and dangers.
Jesus Christ the man could redeem us because he perfectly and completely obeyed God, therefore God highly exalted him.
If you read my posts you would know that I speak of his duel nature.
1. Jesus is human.
2. The logos went into him and speaks through him. The logos became flesh IN him.
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I consider the logos to be a form of God.
Depending on how you define divine, I might agree.
The logos is a god for it was given the fullness of his creator.
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I think the meaning of Logos is pretty apparent.
John 1:1 New International Version (NIV)
The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 New International Version (NIV)
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Do you still say He is divine?
You realize that I believe that the logos is the spirit son, the express image, I hope. God used his spirit son to do his creations. This son is second only to the Father. This son is God's first creation, firstborn of all creatures. Yes, he is divine, he is a god.
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