ECT Definition of "Works Salvation"

[God's Truth]

As James says; "faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead"
Cherry picking one part of what he wrote in chapter 2 only shows you only accept PART of the written word.

I believe every scripture.

Faith alone is dead and cannot save anyone.

That contradicts Heb 9:27 (NIV) GT.

No, it does not.

So let me get this straight...you believe one can lose their salvation?

Don't you believe Jesus?

 

[StanJ]

I believe every scripture.

So you believe John 3:16-18 (NIV)?

No, it does not.

Of course it does, because YOU said; "You will not be judged if you obey Jesus", and the Bible says; "Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment"

Don't you believe Jesus?

Yes, do you? Answer the question please.

 

[God's Truth]

So you believe John 3:16-18 (NIV)?

I believe that scripture and all of them.

All the scriptures that say we have to believe, they do not nullify the scripture that say obey.

Of course it does, because YOU said; "You will not be judged if you obey Jesus", and the Bible says; "Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment"

If you obey Jesus, you will not be judged.

John 5:24 "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

Yes, do you? Answer the question please.

I know I will not ever lose my salvation, because I obey Jesus, and will always obey Jesus.

 

[StanJ]

I believe that scripture and all of them.
All the scriptures that say we have to believe, they do not nullify the scripture that say obey.

Good, so you believe that God gave His son so that the WORLD, all men, could be saved?

If you obey Jesus, you will not be judged.

You just said you believe ALL God's word but here you don't? Heb 9:27 (NIV)

I know I will not ever lose my salvation, because I obey Jesus, and will always obey Jesus.

Not what I asked GT. Do you believe a person CAN lose their salvation?
The verses YOU quoted say they can. Do you believe what Jesus said?

 

[God's Truth]

Good, so you believe that God gave His son so that the WORLD, all men, could be saved?



You just said you believe ALL God's word but here you don't? Heb 9:27 (NIV)



Not what I asked GT. Do you believe a person CAN lose their salvation?
The verses YOU quoted say they can. Do you believe what Jesus said?

If a person is saved that person can lose their salvation.

I gave you scriptures.