Deceptions Christians Believe
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glorydaz
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I know you don't. You are in the flesh.
glorydaz
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Of course it is.
Shalom.
No. Sorry. You do not understand. I do not claim to be in the flesh.
Shalom.
Jacob
glorydaz
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Those who are in the flesh don't know they are, so I'm not surprised you don't claim to be.
Shalom.
Okay. But I do not claim to be in the Spirit. The words can be confused, and I do not understand what they mean.
Shalom.
Jacob
glorydaz
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I know.....if you were in the Spirit, you would know.
Since you don't, you can be sure you're in the flesh.
glorydaz
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Why do you think that?
Shalom.
I have known this for most of my life. It is true of all believers. The Spirit of God dwells in me by faith. It has been this way since I was born again, born of the Spirit of God.
I am off line soon as the sun is going down. The day is almost over, and I have only been posting during the day.
Shalom.
Jacob
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Saxon Hammer
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The Hebrew word for peace, shalom, is derived from a root denoting wholeness or completeness, and its frame of reference throughout Jewish literature is bound up with the notion of shelemut, perfection.
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/shalom/
Peace unto you, Jacob
Instruction, no thank you - to much like 'dusty old mens words'.
However, talk, discussion - Gentlemanly dueling with words and ideas yes please.
I think I am obeying 'God' but I only have a 'soul/spirit' so I have no capacity to state that I am correct, only the 'belief' that I am. Therefore I could just be a 'cuckoo, nut job and that is a very different place.
So now I know, you see too, that Jesus (or whatever his real untranslated name is/was), a man who walked in the 'obedience' of 'God' was only a man with a 'holy spirit' guided by his 'God'. No more and no less than the great many unsung Saints that lived before and since and will again rise in the future. That 'christianity', place Jesus in front of 'God' rather than his being an example of godliness.
There are a great many people doing the very best that they can to help - the 'Pope on Ted Talks' is an example but it is the willingness to bring 'God' to the FRONT, with love and honor and friendship of a great many people that will bring back some moral fibre to the UK and USA (these countries I know fairly well) and a great many others too.
If you understand the 'Adam and Eve' story - then you can see that we each are made in the image of 'God'. However that is not suitable for experiencing 'creation' so we are born as animals and our minds grow up under the influences of our surroundings. BUT it is our 'spirit' which guides us and so we can be free of our animalist behaviours - this would likely be termed 'coming into a state of grace'. Then we can walk the earth and work 'God's' will with ease and without 'commandments' as we are 'full of grace'.
While our world was harsh we had to be constantly reminded to be 'kind', 'loving' etc so our one 'God' had to be stern. 'Christianity' brought the love forward in the times of Roman 'decadence' which later lead to the total collapse of their Empire. It is important to understand the sources of information 'you personally' (meaning anybody including me) read and take to heart as that is the 'serpent in the apple' as you need lots of different perspectives if you want to see the WHOLE picture.
Becoming a specialist changes your fundamental thinking so studying just one book is like watching a single newscast and thinking you know what is happening in the world!!!
If everyone (every single man. woman and child) has a 'holy spirit' as 'God' made us - don't you think we 'THE HUMAN RACE' should be enough 'God' power to 'CHANGE' the world into something better. Would it not be better for every believer of 'the one God' to JOIN with every other person in friendship and love. Knowing that the other person, whether that person believes it or not, IS a 'holy spirit' and has value to ALL others, whether they believe it or not.
Would you drop 1050 commandments and just work on one? Be a 'good samaritan at ALL times be a friend and offer love'.
This is the ministry of God, all around and within us.
Peace unto you, Jacob
Shalom.
I choose not to duel with people. I have read the Torah. I study it every day. I do want to share it with others. See Matthew 5:17-20. No person is a holy spirit. The UK is not a country. I am a citizen of the United States of America and I am a Jew of Israel as a proselyte and a convert. I do not know why anyone mentioned the UK. I would prefer not being asked about the UK. I am not in the UK. If I were the President of the United States of America, my responsibility would be the United States of America. But now since you and others have mentioned the UK I feel the pull to the UK, and I am trying to resist. I do not know much of anything about the UK. I am a citizen of the United States of America, and we are beholden to Israel, not the UK. I do not know why anyone would even ask about the UK. If we take care of our responsibility on earth, others need not see our example and take care of theirs. I do not care if there was a bad deal with England, Great Britain, or the UK. I belong to the United States of America and Israel, and not Germany.
Shalom.
Jacob
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