Deceptions Christians Believe

glorydaz

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Jacob said:
Shalom.

You have the verse wrong, and you said He saves us when the verse says He saved us.

Shalom.

Jacob
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It was from memory. I have been saved, but many have not yet received salvation. Therefore, according to His mercy He saves us is quite appropriate.

You, who are not really a Jew should quibble over a tense......:chuckle:
 
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glorydaz said:
There is no "who" that gave you understanding? :chew:


Well, then, I'm not surprised you have none.

2 Timothy 2:7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.​

Ephesians 1:17-19
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,​
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Shalom.

I was thinking of when I was on Whidbey Island.

Day is nearing it's end. It was nice talking to you today. There are some things that you do not understand.

Shalom.

Jacob
 
1Mind1Spirit

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glorydaz said:
Yep, you musta missed it. It's trampling the blood of Christ to claim what we do (should or should not) has anything to do with our being saved.

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:​

Jacob and I were discussing the word as applies to faith, and trusting in our obedience for salvation. All those shalt not orders come from the law. We shalt or "should" obey the law in order to be saved is the point....it's always the point of law versus grace.

2 Corinthians 1:9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:​
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Might be what you're discussing but all I've gleaned from Jacob is that the law is Holy and good.
 
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Squeaky said:
James 2:20
20But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
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James 2:24
24You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
(NKJ)

James 2:26
26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
(NKJ)

I Jn 2:4-5
4He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
(NKJ)
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Every single one of those verses in James is addressed to the Nation of Israel, not Christians.
 
musterion

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You called?

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