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Covid: Created By God Or Evolved?

DLH

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I almost hate to do this. I'm so fed up with this manufactured pandemic! Cloth masks preventing the spread of a respiratory pathogen with an aerosol vector?! The question becomes either how stupid they are or how stupid they think we are. And why? Why are they doing it? It's obvious.

Anyway, I don't want to go off on that nonsense. The question is why would God have created virus in the first place? What good can a virus be? What could possibly have resulted in created man not being affected by them?

If, like me, you don't "believe in" evolution, that is you think it's a failed metaphysical experiment from Greek philosophers Anaximander, Anaxagoras, Empedocles and Aristotle surely you would wonder about it.
 

Skeeter

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I almost hate to do this. I'm so fed up with this manufactured pandemic! Cloth masks preventing the spread of a respiratory pathogen with an aerosol vector?! The question becomes either how stupid they are or how stupid they think we are.
They think you and the public are stupid-- and you are. They try to manage that stupid with simple public messages that coincide with the conditions at the time of the directive. When there was a feared n95 mask shortage, they played up the imperfect nature of masks. They tried to later explain that even a cloth mask confers a 20% reduction in risk to the wearer and an 80% reduction in spread to others {numbers approximate}. But, the public is both stupid and selfish. Twenty percent reduction in risk did not warrant the bother. If you don't want to get the virus from me stay home. Belligerent, oppositional, entitled fools. The notions of personal salvation and being a member of the elect contributes to greater selfishness. Eventually, the government back-pedaled again and focused on how much a mask could benefit the wearer.

And why? Why are they doing it? It's obvious.
They are doing it in an effort to protect the public health. But, yes there are some actions and statements among politicians that reflect the idea that a crisis should never be a wasted opportunity to gain advantage.
 

DLH

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They think you and the public are stupid-- and you are.

Agreed. They've been doing the same thing for over 100 years. Kansas City in 1921. Pittsburgh in 1924, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington in 1925. They tried it in New York in 1925, but due to the open fight against it by the New York Evening Graphic, the Commissioner of Health called it off. The so called Spanish Flu was a vaccine induced pandemic.

They try to manage that stupid with simple public messages that coincide with the conditions at the time of the directive.

They shouldn't.

They created the directive out of greed, not incompetence. They want population control to get resources abroad, and for control. They want to make billions from a so called vaccine which doesn't work and causes more damage than the mild common cold that is the corona.

Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease, which is a department of the National Institutes of Health, funded a 2018-2019 study for treatment of Ebola virus in Africa. It used Remdesivir along with three other therapeutics.

Remdesivir had the highest mortality rate (53.1%) of all the drugs used in the trial. It was removed from the trial after 28 days. Remdesivir causes acute kidney failure. Source: New England Journal of Medicine, December 12, 2019

Hospitals get 20% bonus (total $ 3200) for prescribing lethal Remdesivir compared to the safe inexpensive alternative Ivermectin only pays them $125. Source: CMS.gov Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

So the medical establishment, hospitals in the USA, are being payed off to prescribe Remdesivir, which isn't effective or safe, instead of prescribing the inexpensive effective treatment. Ivermectin is approved. But they don't want us to know that.

NIH Approved Treatments of Covid-19

Dr. Bryan Ardis Exposes Covid-19 Hospital Protocols that are Murdering Americans & Why NOT to Take the Vaccine

It's in the Fauci playbook. The same as he did with AIDS in the 1980's

Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko said via Belarusian Telegraph Agency, BelTA., that World Bank and IMF offered him a bribe of $940 million USD in the form of “Covid Relief Aid.” In exchange for $940 million USD, the World Bank and IMF [International Monetary Fund] demanded that the President of Belarus:

• imposed “extreme lockdown on his people”
• force them to wear face masks
• impose very strict curfews
• impose a police state
• crash the economy

(Source)

When there was a feared n95 mask shortage, they played up the imperfect nature of masks.

They lied. They know they lied. You don't. Masks are useless. Not to mention the obvious leakage on the top, bottom and sides you have to ask yourself how many microns is the virus? The COVID-19 virus is 0.125 microns and N95 masks only filter down to 0.3 microns so how can N95, surgical or cloth masks be effective? If the virus is coughed, sneezed, or spit all over the place, even directly in your mouth, they are rendered harmless because they are bound in the larger droplets. It has an aerosol vector.

Masks are a relic of the miasmatic school of medicine and not even effective in clean surgical procedure. That was published in a medical journal along with the reason it is still thought to be of any use. Semmelweis Reflex.

They tried to later explain that even a cloth mask confers a 20% reduction in risk to the wearer and an 80% reduction in spread to others {numbers approximate}.

Approximate?! No, they're nonsense. They put up mask stations in hospitals when they know that masks are completely useless. They put up bacterial hand sanitizers - for show. They closed down small businesses for a mild cold. They inflated the numbers by calling everything covid and they killed people by withholding the proper treatment. (see below). If you got shot by police they called it covid. If you had COPD they called it covid. If you had the seasonal flu they called it guess what? Their testing was deliberately and insanely inaccurate and they either knew it or they should have known it.

But, the public is both stupid and selfish.

Otherwise they wouldn't be getting away with it. The question is for how long? And if ever again.

Twenty percent reduction in risk did not warrant the bother.

Apparently it did. Look at all of the idiots wearing masks and getting the so called vaccine. Look at them starving, look at them out of work. Look at them cowering in their homes. Quarantine them though not sick? Works wonders for the memory cells B and T, huh? The incompetent led by the pathologically greedy with eugenics on their minds.

If you don't want to get the virus from me stay home. Belligerent, oppositional, entitled fools. The notions of personal salvation and being a member of the elect contributes to greater selfishness. Eventually, the government back-pedaled again and focused on how much a mask could benefit the wearer.

The governments are in the back pockets of the aforementioned pathological lunatics. They do what they are told.

They are doing it in an effort to protect the public health. But, yes there are some actions and statements among politicians that reflect the idea that a crisis should never be a wasted opportunity to gain advantage.

Nonsense. The following links are for the stupid such as myself.

The Fauci / Covid-19 Dossier

NIC and CDC Protocols ARE Causing More COVID Deaths then Covid Alone!!! - Dr. Bryan Ardis

Vaccines, The Biggest Medical Fraud In History, by Eleanor McBean, Sue Martson, Ida Honorof and Trung Nguyen

Did Vaccines Eradicate Diseases in the 20th Century?

How Plumbing (Not Vaccines) Eradicated Disease

The Dark History Of Vaccines

Vaccine-Induced Disease Epidemic Outbreaks, The Engineering of 'Pandemics,' By A. True Ott, PhD, ND

How Experimental Military Vaccines Killed Millions During 1918 Spanish Flu

The Truth Revealed About the Deadly 1918 Spanish Flu: It Was Actually Bacterial Pneumonia

The 1918 Influenza Epidemic was a Vaccine-caused Disease

The Introduction of Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis and Oral Polio Vaccine Among Young Infants in an Urban African Community: A Natural Experiment

Swine Flu Expose

Dr. David Martin

Manufactured Illusion

Dr. Bryan Ardis: Remdesivir Kills

Plandemic

Plandemic I

Plandemic II

Covid Scam Explained

A relatively short video that starts out good, and then descends into conjecture. The first part explains it very accurately and simply.

The Entire Covid Scam Explained

Perspectives On Pandemic

Perspectives 14 (Knut Wittkowski)

Perspectives 15 (Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, MD)

Perspectives 16 (Dr. Michael Yeadon)

Dr. Luc Montagnier

Vaccines Are Causing Stronger Variants

Senator Dr. Scott Jensen

Inflated Numbers

But the question was . . . created or evolved?
 
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Leatherneck

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I almost hate to do this. I'm so fed up with this manufactured pandemic! Cloth masks preventing the spread of a respiratory pathogen with an aerosol vector?! The question becomes either how stupid they are or how stupid they think we are. And why? Why are they doing it? It's obvious.

Anyway, I don't want to go off on that nonsense. The question is why would God have created virus in the first place? What good can a virus be? What could possibly have resulted in created man not being affected by them?

If, like me, you don't "believe in" evolution, that is you think it's a failed metaphysical experiment from Greek philosophers Anaximander, Anaxagoras, Empedocles and Aristotle surely you would wonder about it.
Nope, it was created in a lab in China.
 

DLH

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Nope, it was created in a lab in China.

Well, no, see, corona viruses have been around as long as mankind or longer. In my post above in response to @Skeeter I provided links to patent numbers on it's detection, animal vaccines (dog and rabbit) going back to the 1990s. They've been planning this manufactured "pandemic" since 2010 at least. Actually much earlier but I can't remember so let's just say at least then. Ralph Baric has been working with it at UNC Chapel hill since the 1990s. The WHO declared it no longer a threat to humans in 2008, I think it was. They were working on gain of function at USAMRIID, and other places until that sort of research was banned. Then they just did it in China.

And they didn't create it, they manipulated it. That's what gain of function is. The Americans with the help of the Chinese. Covid is SARS. The Americans were trying to spread SARS over Asia years ago. And MERS. Just like they did with the so called Spanish Flu over a hundred years ago.

We've known about, well, for example, 4 strains of the corona virus that are common colds, so 70% of the human population had corona viruses long before the so called pandemic.

We can't create a virus. We manipulate it. Viruses evolve, mutate, but here the word evolution is the theory that one living organism, such as a submicroscopic pathogen like corona virus, becomes something else. A virus can change, that is evolve, mutate, but evolution is pure nonsense. The virus doesn't change into something other than what it is. A virus.

Hope I didn't mess that wording up like I often do. You have to be specific and concise when talking about evolution.
 
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Yorzhik

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They tried to later explain that even a cloth mask confers a 20% reduction in risk to the wearer and an 80% reduction in spread to others {numbers approximate}.
This can't be true. Graphs of similar demographics, one wearing masks and one not, are always identical within the noise of the signal. 20% and 80% is such a large difference it would have been seen above the noise.

When you can explain the graphs then you can claim some credibility for any study that claims masks are more than face decorations. And masks have risks involved with them as well, making them worse than not wearing a mask at all.
Cloth masks are little more than face decorations
 

Leatherneck

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Well, no, see, corona viruses have been around as long as mankind or longer. In my post above in response to @Skeeter I provided links to patent numbers on it's detection, animal vaccines (dog and rabbit) going back to the 1990s. They've been planning this manufactured "pandemic" since 2010 at least. Actually much earlier but I can't remember so let's just say at least then. Ralph Baric has been working with it at UNC Chapel hill since the 1990s. The WHO declared it no longer a threat to humans in 2008, I think it was. They were working on gain of function at USAMRIID, and other places until that sort of research was banned. Then they just did it in China.

And they didn't create it, they manipulated it. That's what gain of function is. The Americans with the help of the Chinese. Covid is SARS. The Americans were trying to spread SARS over Asia years ago. And MERS. Just like they did with the so called Spanish Flu over a hundred years ago.

We've known about, well, for example, 4 strains of the corona virus that are common colds, so 70% of the human population had corona viruses long before the so called pandemic.

We can't create a virus. We manipulate it. Viruses evolve, mutate, but here the word evolution is the theory that one living organism, such as a submicroscopic pathogen like corona virus, becomes something else. A virus can change, that is evolve, mutate, but evolution is pure nonsense. The virus doesn't change into something other than what it is. A virus.

Hope I didn't mess that wording up like I often do. You have to be specific and concise when talking about evolution.
Correct I misspoke the virus was manulipated.
 

marke

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I almost hate to do this. I'm so fed up with this manufactured pandemic! Cloth masks preventing the spread of a respiratory pathogen with an aerosol vector?! The question becomes either how stupid they are or how stupid they think we are. And why? Why are they doing it? It's obvious.

Anyway, I don't want to go off on that nonsense. The question is why would God have created virus in the first place? What good can a virus be? What could possibly have resulted in created man not being affected by them?

If, like me, you don't "believe in" evolution, that is you think it's a failed metaphysical experiment from Greek philosophers Anaximander, Anaxagoras, Empedocles and Aristotle surely you would wonder about it.
God created life. Sin brought on disease and death and humans have to deal with disease and death because of the curse brought on all the earth by Adam's sin.
 

Skeeter

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DLH: Remdesivir had the highest mortality rate (53.1%) of all the drugs used in the trial. It was removed from the trial after 28 days. Remdesivir causes acute kidney failure. Source: New England Journal of Medicine, December 12, 2019

Remdesivir was part of the control group treating Ebola patients. When there is a sign that the experimental group is working, the control group is usually dropped under such dire conditions. You did not think this meant that the drug killed any of the subjects, did you? Ebola killed them. Kidney failure is a potential adverse effect. People with abnormal kidney function should not use it.

Covid is not Ebola.
 

Skeeter

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This can't be true. Graphs of similar demographics, one wearing masks and one not, are always identical within the noise of the signal. 20% and 80% is such a large difference it would have been seen above the noise.

When you can explain the graphs then you can claim some credibility for any study that claims masks are more than face decorations. And masks have risks involved with them as well, making them worse than not wearing a mask at all.
Cloth masks are little more than face decorations
Mask use is a part of a balanced breakfast. Distancing and hand washing must also be used to achieve good results.

Omicron being more contagious has experts stressing vaccination and moving toward surgical masks over cloth masks.
 

marke

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Mask use is a part of a balanced breakfast. Distancing and hand washing must also be used to achieve good results.

Omicron being more contagious has experts stressing vaccination and moving toward surgical masks over cloth masks.
Masks do not prevent the spread of covid. Masks just calm the irrational fears of the deluded who wrongly imagine masks will keep them from getting sick and dying.
 

JudgeRightly

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This is a false dichotomy.

COVID-19 was developed in a lab by people using organisms that have spent about 6,000 years adapting to their environment after God created "everything good" and then creation went through "the fall" and "the flood."

Viruses technically aren't "organisms," per se, But you are correct.
 

Yorzhik

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Mask use is a part of a balanced breakfast. Distancing and hand washing must also be used to achieve good results.
And just like like a balanced breakfast of cereal and milk, the difference between healthy and not is the milk.

Masks don't help. And they can hurt.

Omicron being more contagious has experts stressing vaccination and moving toward surgical masks over cloth masks.
:ROFLMAO::LOL::D:ROFLMAO::p:LOL: and you think those people are trying to help you.
 

Omniskeptical

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This is a false dichotomy.

COVID-19 was developed in a lab by people using organisms that have spent about 6,000 years adapting to their environment after God created "everything good" and then creation went through "the fall" and "the flood."
It is totally false. Covid19 can't replicate in a normal white blood cell, and needs a fungus cell or bacterium cell or etc cell to replicate. Thus viruses don't adapt but rather are the plasmids which cause germ adaptation.

Furthermore, the fall did not cause human illnesses, rather it made them unpreventable in some cases and inevitable.
 
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Omniskeptical

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Clete

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I almost hate to do this. I'm so fed up with this manufactured pandemic! Cloth masks preventing the spread of a respiratory pathogen with an aerosol vector?! The question becomes either how stupid they are or how stupid they think we are. And why? Why are they doing it? It's obvious.

Anyway, I don't want to go off on that nonsense. The question is why would God have created virus in the first place? What good can a virus be? What could possibly have resulted in created man not being affected by them?

If, like me, you don't "believe in" evolution, that is you think it's a failed metaphysical experiment from Greek philosophers Anaximander, Anaxagoras, Empedocles and Aristotle surely you would wonder about it.
Excellent question!

The short answer is that, first of all, the overwhelmingly vast majority of viruses do not cause disease and there was time when none of them did. That was certainly the case prior to Adam's fall but likely for some time after that as well. Also, most viruses that do cause disease in humans came from animals where the same virus does not cause disease. In other words, causing disease is a side effect, not a primary purpose, of their existence. Not only that but there are several viruses that humans weren't ever intended to have in the first place (HIV is one obvious example) and only exist in the human population because of grossly perverse sin.

We, I believe, are only starting to scratch the surface when it comes to understanding the important role viruses play in the complex processes of biology and ecology but what we know already is sufficient to say that life simply could exist without them.

Here's a link to a terrific article on this subject that goes into way more detail....

Summary​

A review of the structure, function, and role of viruses in ecology is presented. It is concluded that viruses are non-living entities, similar to seeds and spores whose functions include carrying genes from one plant or animal to another. Viruses are a part of a system that helps to produce the variety that is critical for life and, importantly, they carry resistance to disease from one organism to another. Most viruses live in their host without causing problems. Pathogenesis is evidence of something gone wrong, a mutation or the accidental movement of genes, and not evidence of a system deliberately designed to cause human disease and suffering.​


Clete
 
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