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annabenedetti
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anna will wear you down if you let her - the TDS is very strong in her
just laugh at her and mock her
If you post bullcrap I'll call it bullcrap. Whether you laugh while I'm calling your bullcrap is totally up to you. :chuckle:
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Too bad for you... cranky lady.
I never claimed that it was absolutely... certainly.... undoubtedly... 100%.
I said that the graphs look to be 100% Biden.
You need to get a grip on yourself.
annabenedetti
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You need to get a grip on your facts, or don't waste my time.
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The graphs LOOK to be 100% Biden.
ok doser
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Of course they do, to any sane person
seven wards in wisconsin had more votes than voters
annabenedetti
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I swear, the Trumpers have gone off the deep end.
ok doser
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annabenedetti
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You're a sucker for fake news. I'm embarrassed for you, and disgusted with you.
One popular — and very false — claim is that the battleground state had more ballots cast than registered voters. An online article shared widely on social media narrowed that claim to Milwaukee, the state’s largest city and a Democratic stronghold.
"Seven Milwaukee wards report more 2020 presidential votes than registered voters," stated a Nov. 4, 2020 article from Milwaukee City Wire.
City Wire later updated the article, but not before an array of other purported news sources echoed the same supposed finding. Those posts remained online after City Wire updated its post the afternoon of Nov. 5. The claim also got some increased attention after a tweet from Sean Hannity.
This article was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook).
Bottom line: It’s wrong. Very wrong.
The source
Before we get into the claim itself, here’s a refresher on City Wire.
The website is one of several purported local news sites run by Metric Media Publications. In Wisconsin, the company operates 24 web pages including "Green Bay Reporter" and "Fon du Lac News," which notably misspells the city name of Fond du Lac.
The Columbia Journalism Review reported the network relies heavily on algorithmically-generated stories and can be traced to conservative businessman Brian Timpone. His former company, Journatic, drew outrage in 2012 for plagiarism, fake bylines and fake quotes in what was dubbed "pink slime journalism."
Back in August, we looked at an "analysis" from the website about Biden’s school choice policy and determined it was False.
Now, onto the latest claim.
Milwaukee’s voting numbers
The crux of the headline centered around seven wards on Milwaukee’s southwest side. The unnamed writers of the article claimed to use data showing the number of ballots cast for the presidential race in these wards exceeded the number of registered voters.
There are a few problems here. The first: The numbers were completely incorrect.
Here are the unofficial results in those wards as reported by the Milwaukee County clerk’s office (election results aren’t final until officials complete canvassing):
(Quick note: Votes for Biden and Trump don’t add up to total ballots cast because there were other candidates for president, and some people may not have voted in that race.)
Milwaukee Election Commission Executive Director Claire Woodall-Vogg told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel it wasn’t clear where the numbers in the article came from. She said the reporting software from the city and county reflect different numbers than what City Wire published.
For instance, the article said Ward 274 cast 1,290 votes for Biden and Trump when the number was actually only 593.
City Wire also cited the Wisconsin Secretary of State’s office as the source of the data. But, unlike in some other states, that office in Wisconsin is not involved in the state’s elections and therefore doesn’t collect election data.
"My office coworkers who first saw that and called it to my attention and I have no idea what they’re talking about because we have no such records," said Secretary of State Doug La Follette, whose small office focuses on authenticating official documents with the state seal.
City Wire published an updated article with an editor’s note on Nov. 5, 2020 that said Milwaukee County updated voter registration data and voting tallies for nine wards after the original version was published shortly after 3 p.m. on Nov. 4.
But that's untrue. An archived version of the county election results showed the wards in question had accurate results posted as of 9:48 a.m. Wednesday, hours before the first version of this story published. This is also confirmed by the timestamp on the county website, which notes it was last updated at 3:56 a.m. Nov. 4.
On a broader scale, the Wisconsin Elections Commission has emphasized that it’s simply not possible for there to be more ballots than registered voters. Wisconsin allows people to register at the polls on Election Day.
"There are never more ballots than registered voters," the commission tweeted on Nov. 4, 2020.
Our ruling
A widely-shared online article said "seven Milwaukee wards report more 2020 presidential votes than registered voters."
The numbers cited by Milwaukee City Wire do not match data from the Milwaukee County clerk’s office, which show the number of registered voters exceeded ballots cast. Moreover, it’s simply not possible for there to be more ballots than voters.
We rate this claim Pants on Fire.
One popular — and very false — claim is that the battleground state had more ballots cast than registered voters. An online article shared widely on social media narrowed that claim to Milwaukee, the state’s largest city and a Democratic stronghold.
"Seven Milwaukee wards report more 2020 presidential votes than registered voters," stated a Nov. 4, 2020 article from Milwaukee City Wire.
City Wire later updated the article, but not before an array of other purported news sources echoed the same supposed finding. Those posts remained online after City Wire updated its post the afternoon of Nov. 5. The claim also got some increased attention after a tweet from Sean Hannity.
This article was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook).
Bottom line: It’s wrong. Very wrong.
The source
Before we get into the claim itself, here’s a refresher on City Wire.
The website is one of several purported local news sites run by Metric Media Publications. In Wisconsin, the company operates 24 web pages including "Green Bay Reporter" and "Fon du Lac News," which notably misspells the city name of Fond du Lac.
The Columbia Journalism Review reported the network relies heavily on algorithmically-generated stories and can be traced to conservative businessman Brian Timpone. His former company, Journatic, drew outrage in 2012 for plagiarism, fake bylines and fake quotes in what was dubbed "pink slime journalism."
Back in August, we looked at an "analysis" from the website about Biden’s school choice policy and determined it was False.
Now, onto the latest claim.
Milwaukee’s voting numbers
The crux of the headline centered around seven wards on Milwaukee’s southwest side. The unnamed writers of the article claimed to use data showing the number of ballots cast for the presidential race in these wards exceeded the number of registered voters.
There are a few problems here. The first: The numbers were completely incorrect.
Here are the unofficial results in those wards as reported by the Milwaukee County clerk’s office (election results aren’t final until officials complete canvassing):
- 234: 688 registered voters; 588 total ballots cast; 458 votes for Biden; 114 votes for President Donald Trump.
- 269: 978 registered voters; 861 total ballots cast; 451 votes for Biden; 388 votes for Trump.
- 272: 1,190 registered voters; 1,096 total ballots cast; 512 votes for Biden; 567 votes for Trump.
- 273: 671 registered voters; 612 total ballots cast; 313 votes for Biden; 290 votes for Trump.
- 274: 702 registered voters; 611 total ballots cast; 296 votes for Biden; 297 votes for Trump.
- 277: 1,520 registered voters; 1,321 total ballots cast; 688 votes for Biden; 602 votes for Trump.
- 312: 1,029 registered voters; 951 total ballots cast; 553 votes for Biden; 389 votes for Trump.
(Quick note: Votes for Biden and Trump don’t add up to total ballots cast because there were other candidates for president, and some people may not have voted in that race.)
Milwaukee Election Commission Executive Director Claire Woodall-Vogg told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel it wasn’t clear where the numbers in the article came from. She said the reporting software from the city and county reflect different numbers than what City Wire published.
For instance, the article said Ward 274 cast 1,290 votes for Biden and Trump when the number was actually only 593.
City Wire also cited the Wisconsin Secretary of State’s office as the source of the data. But, unlike in some other states, that office in Wisconsin is not involved in the state’s elections and therefore doesn’t collect election data.
"My office coworkers who first saw that and called it to my attention and I have no idea what they’re talking about because we have no such records," said Secretary of State Doug La Follette, whose small office focuses on authenticating official documents with the state seal.
City Wire published an updated article with an editor’s note on Nov. 5, 2020 that said Milwaukee County updated voter registration data and voting tallies for nine wards after the original version was published shortly after 3 p.m. on Nov. 4.
But that's untrue. An archived version of the county election results showed the wards in question had accurate results posted as of 9:48 a.m. Wednesday, hours before the first version of this story published. This is also confirmed by the timestamp on the county website, which notes it was last updated at 3:56 a.m. Nov. 4.
On a broader scale, the Wisconsin Elections Commission has emphasized that it’s simply not possible for there to be more ballots than registered voters. Wisconsin allows people to register at the polls on Election Day.
"There are never more ballots than registered voters," the commission tweeted on Nov. 4, 2020.
Our ruling
A widely-shared online article said "seven Milwaukee wards report more 2020 presidential votes than registered voters."
The numbers cited by Milwaukee City Wire do not match data from the Milwaukee County clerk’s office, which show the number of registered voters exceeded ballots cast. Moreover, it’s simply not possible for there to be more ballots than voters.
We rate this claim Pants on Fire.
ok doser
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Cheaters caught
Arthur Brain
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Oh, there'll be a lot of incessant whining and conspiracy whacko stuff for a while to come, but who, honestly, expected anything else?
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ok doser
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coming from you, an apologist for child pornography and a supporter of baby killers, that means less than nothing
annabenedetti
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It's interesting, the way you lie. Interesting from a psychological standpoint. You're obviously a psychopathic narcissist, but you must have some OCD in there as well because of the way your lies are so predictably repeated. It's like you have this little rolodex of lies in your brain, and each of your rote lies are dog-eared and worn, yet you pull them out and caress the creases lovingly before you lay them out again.
So fascinating...