Grow up.
Knowing that scripture teaches a triune GOD of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit does not mean that one must accept every tidbit of every trinity doctrine floating around.
It is taught in the Bible from beginning to end.
All the time.
No.
Christians worship Christ; JW's do not!
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Knowing that scripture teaches a triune GOD of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit does not mean that one must accept every tidbit of every trinity doctrine floating around.
Scripture says GOD is the only one to look to as Lord and Savior of the world.
Jesus would not disagree and teach there was another Lord and Savior of the world to look to.
Apple7
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Moses was Trinitarian.
Apple7
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truthjourney
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I'll try to say this one more time and hopefully this time you will hear me. It is not the rank and file JW that I have a problem with but it is the leadership, the Governing Body, that I have a problem with.
And didn't you say yourself that you were treated harshly by the JWs? Why do you think that happened? Who do you think makes the rules, regulations and teachings of JWs? Whose orders do you think they were following and carrying out to treat you that way? So think about that and see if you can figure out why I have a problem with the Governing Body and the way they treat people. And that's what I've been saying all along and trying to get you to understand.
glorydaz
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Do you agree God became flesh and dwelt among us?
I don't understand why that is so hard for you to say.
way 2 go
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Jesus is worshiped.
Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Mat 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshiped him
Joh 9:37 Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.”
Joh 9:38 He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.
Luk 19:38 saying, “Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord! Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!”
Luk 19:39 And some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, rebuke your disciples.”
Luk 19:40 He answered, “I tell you, if these were silent, the very stones would cry out.”
I told you over and over that I don't trust any organization, period. I don't belong to any organization.
we cannot blame the organization leaders because we should be able to see what is going. We will be judged by what kind of people we associate with too.
And the leaders will be severely punished if they are leading their flock astray.
Even so, we just cannot blame the leaders if we are so blindly following evil leaders.
Jesus says we know them by their fruit. If we are true to Jesus' teachings, we will not follow our leaders blindly because He gave us how do discern the truth from sinful practice.
I have witnessed plenty of hypocrisy in trin churches and its people.
It is organizational thing.
Jesus says to come out of Babylon. I believe He is talking about the organizations.
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KingdomRose
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The Bible does not say ANYWHERE that God is three in one. You and your ilk have made that up in your confused minds. And that you can't understand that God is THE Lord and Savior and has designated His Son to be the means by which He savesis pathetic. As many times as it has been explained here on these threads! Jesus is Lord of all human lords, but not as high in authority as his Father. In fact, his Father GAVE him the authority that he, Jesus, has. Did you miss that in your Bible reading? Or you just listen to the crap your church tells you?
KingdomRose
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He was NOT. Your statements are so ridiculous that continuing to comment on them is actually casting pearls before swine. Jesus said not to bother.
marhig
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I agree, and what is even more unbelievable is Jesus actually tells us in plain speech and directly that the father is the only true God, and that he sent him, that he gave him commandments to do, that he is his God and that he's greater than him, and that he gave him power over all flesh and that he was doing the father's will. And he prays to the father who is his God. He even said that the doctrine he speaks and his words are not his own but the father's who sent him.
John 12
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
John 7
Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Jesus says clearly, the doctrine is not his but his who sent him, and if any man does his will then he will know whether the doctrine is of himself or of God thus Jesus isn't God!
And they call us all sorts of wicked things for believing Jesus himself, and not believing in their trinity doctrine when.
There is no trinity in the bible
No God the son
No equality, seeing as Jesus has been exalted and given authority by the father and he has set him at his right hand and Christ is in subjection to him, so the father is greater than him and above him. But God has put Jesus over everything in heaven and in earth and he is the beloved son of the father.p
And Jesus only ever says that he is the son of God, so the father is the Almighty God and Jesus is his son
And now some are starting to twist the scriptures to try to make Jesus God, by saying he is the God of this world, when Jesus even says he is not of this world. And Satan said this
Luke 4
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
So all the power and glory of the world has been delivered to the devil and he was going to give it all to Jesus if he worshipped him. So he is in control of the kingdoms of the world he is the God of this world. And he is able to give power and the glory of the kingdoms of this world to whomsoever he pleases, and those who love the world are under his influence. God made this world beautiful, and man is destroying it because they lust after the flesh and they are under the influence of Satan who is the prince of this world.
Some people will do anything to try and make Jesus God!
You and your friends have been dismissing too many verses to support your doctrines.
And I know you will not stop and repeat the same over and over and over.....
It is all the same at all trinity threads too.
SHOW WHERE WE DISMISSED ANY VERSES!
Hypocrite. You don't even accept most of the Bible, so why should you even care?
All your posts are the same too, hypocrite. Completely dismissive of scripture that we provide.
I know you are blindly trusting what you have been given by your churches.
It is so meaningless talking to you, but I know if someone who are patient like marhig and Rose will answer all your repeated questions.
Even then you will not stop.
It is just madness and sad.
TRANSLATION:
| I'm just going to repeat what I said in my previous post, ignoring what my opponent said, and I'm not going to provide evidence for what I accused him of. |
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BUZZ OFF, MESHAK.
As soon as [MENTION=18157]marhig[/MENTION] has time to look at your question, she will kindly answer your repeated questions.
She is at the hospital right now with her child.
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| I'm too much of a coward to prove my own assertions, so I'm going to let someone else prove them for me. |
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BUZZ OFF, MESHAK!
Bearing false witness is a sin.
genuineoriginal
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And all throughout scripture, God sends others to act for Him as the savior of His people.
Scripture proves that God saves His people through delegates.