Christian Ministers to Use 'Magic Mushrooms' for 'Religious Experience' for A Study
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freelight
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Enjoy the ride.......
Enjoy the ride.......
Poor Epoisses,....someone gave you the wrong kind of mushrooms,....come to the cosmic cafe and get the 'real stuff' :crackup:
Enjoy the ride.......
Poor Epoisses,....someone gave you the wrong kind of mushrooms,....come to the cosmic cafe and get the 'real stuff' :crackup:
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Epoisses
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Poor Epoisses,....someone gave you the wrong kind of mushrooms,....come to the cosmic cafe and get the 'real stuff' :crackup:
Is the cosmic café in Colorado?
Maybe, because it's the truth. It's gotta be 'round here somewhere. :think:Thats what they would have you believe
I found a crop of magic mushrooms on the Black Mountain yesterday.
http://www.breconbeacons.org/black-mountain-range
http://www.breconbeacons.org/black-mountain-range
Epoisses
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freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
The stunning truth........
The stunning truth........
Your belief that the RCC is some kind of special or sole custodian of truth is opined only by those who have chosen to believe that assumption....and it is wholly by faith. I would posit truth is a living principle or reality at the heart of nature, that reality sustaining existence and all factors that condition existence per one's own experience of it, because it is nature and her ways, - such includes all innate and universal laws which govern its movements.
Therefore I propose a study in ancient wisdom teachings, perennial philosophy, theosophy or some school of occult knowledge, because such deals with fundamental propositions. It is one's aim to unite with the spirit of truth itself, espouse a true and living principle of religion, and by wisdom....live that out in daily practice and meditation. If a religious organization can serve as a facilitator of true teachings, principles and values....it will have its own worth in service.
Understanding this does not include the dogmatic belief that only one religious organization is sanctioned by God, let alone founded by a man named Jesus.
Finally my former observation on the usefulness of the research of the affect of mushrooms on the mind affecting religious experience holds, since the use of natural 'drugs' have been employed for religious purposes for centuries among different cultures. Demonizing it outright seems premature if not presumptuous, beyond any intelligent or reasonable use of it or any natural substance for that matter.
On another level, if mushrooms serve as a metaphor for some altered state of mind, gateway to euphoria, or enlightenment...whatever its effects,....the 'God' you assume or worship could be a 'mushroom' depending on how you use such a 'god'....Jesus too could be a 'magic mushroom' for the mind. So before religionists start casting judgments at natural or scientific studies, maybe a good look at their own shrooms of religious consumption could be re-evaluated for being 'mind-candy', 'druggery', illusion or just wishful thinking, insurance sold thru ignorance, fear or want of comfort in the face of the unknown or unknowable.
The stunning truth........
Your belief that the RCC is some kind of special or sole custodian of truth is opined only by those who have chosen to believe that assumption....and it is wholly by faith. I would posit truth is a living principle or reality at the heart of nature, that reality sustaining existence and all factors that condition existence per one's own experience of it, because it is nature and her ways, - such includes all innate and universal laws which govern its movements.
Therefore I propose a study in ancient wisdom teachings, perennial philosophy, theosophy or some school of occult knowledge, because such deals with fundamental propositions. It is one's aim to unite with the spirit of truth itself, espouse a true and living principle of religion, and by wisdom....live that out in daily practice and meditation. If a religious organization can serve as a facilitator of true teachings, principles and values....it will have its own worth in service.
Understanding this does not include the dogmatic belief that only one religious organization is sanctioned by God, let alone founded by a man named Jesus.
Finally my former observation on the usefulness of the research of the affect of mushrooms on the mind affecting religious experience holds, since the use of natural 'drugs' have been employed for religious purposes for centuries among different cultures. Demonizing it outright seems premature if not presumptuous, beyond any intelligent or reasonable use of it or any natural substance for that matter.
On another level, if mushrooms serve as a metaphor for some altered state of mind, gateway to euphoria, or enlightenment...whatever its effects,....the 'God' you assume or worship could be a 'mushroom' depending on how you use such a 'god'....Jesus too could be a 'magic mushroom' for the mind. So before religionists start casting judgments at natural or scientific studies, maybe a good look at their own shrooms of religious consumption could be re-evaluated for being 'mind-candy', 'druggery', illusion or just wishful thinking, insurance sold thru ignorance, fear or want of comfort in the face of the unknown or unknowable.
I think that could be the biggest fear of mankind, fear of the unknown and unknowable.
Zeke
Well-known member
Funny christians impune the very beliefs its own dogma was plagiarized from, Alvin Boyd Kuhn The Shadow Of The Third Century makes that case with quotes from the time period that led up to the egocentric nonsense most are mentally impregnated with. How tall was Oral Roberts Jesus again? Unconditional love being the step child that most westernized christians disown without ever even knowing they do.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Light casting shadows.......
Light casting shadows.......
Hi Kat
Life, or existence in this conditional world of space/time....includes both shadow and light. Light itself, manifests in myriad colours, frequencies, vibrations...which give their appearance and effect. The whole of creation contains the whole of the rainbow, and all its fragmentations. I would look at the greater context and content of the cosmos. Good/evil, light/darkness, positive/negative, male/female. The Creator and Creation apparently ALLOWS for the potential and possibility for every varaiation of light and shadow to 'interplay' as a show of contrast. Clarity comes with recognizing the light itself, contrasting it.
Light casting shadows.......
Hi Kat
Life, or existence in this conditional world of space/time....includes both shadow and light. Light itself, manifests in myriad colours, frequencies, vibrations...which give their appearance and effect. The whole of creation contains the whole of the rainbow, and all its fragmentations. I would look at the greater context and content of the cosmos. Good/evil, light/darkness, positive/negative, male/female. The Creator and Creation apparently ALLOWS for the potential and possibility for every varaiation of light and shadow to 'interplay' as a show of contrast. Clarity comes with recognizing the light itself, contrasting it.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Frankly we come to see that no one can prove 'God' even exists, outside our own terms, definitions, meanings and qualifications of the 'word'. - this is the bare reality, which can only reflect that only awareness exists.
Zeke
Well-known member
God is a mental program that deceives the mind into believing the script with a foundation built on duality. When the truth of our own unborn statues is tasted writhin the dream begins to break down as awaking from that sleep begins to wear off. Anythng in time is temporal so the focus should be on the timelessness we all came from not playing the mortal games of time based existence.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
paradigm shifts........
paradigm shifts........
Greetings in the Shekinah Light
We would point new readers to our former dialogue here so far as to see for oneself the value of the study of natural substances and how they may affect consciousness states within the venue of religious experience. We would remind ourselves that an authentic research into our own experience of reality however defined is always essential in our quest for truth.
In theological matters our openness and honesty in investigating all things pertaining to 'God' and religious belief-systems must always be at the core too, and this may include modifications in our points of view or even whole paradigm shifts. A student of reality must therefore always question and remain open to learning new facts, knowledge, relationships and language within any given field or context. This could include the entire spectrum from theism to atheism, gnostic to agnostic perspectives, all possible points of view.
Concerning 'God' being a programmed concept, this may be the case, so such a 'program' may be more or less erroneous, distorted or useful depending on the terms, values, meaning and language being used in the program description. Mushrooms could enhance one's receptivity to subjective sense impressions conditioned by one's psychological disposition or belief-system, while also in general opening their minds to the greater realm of cosmic consciousness.
A 'God' or 'gods' may or may not be involved in the process. What reality is always at heart is the presence of consciousness itself prior to words, descriptions or appearances.
paradigm shifts........
Greetings in the Shekinah Light
We would point new readers to our former dialogue here so far as to see for oneself the value of the study of natural substances and how they may affect consciousness states within the venue of religious experience. We would remind ourselves that an authentic research into our own experience of reality however defined is always essential in our quest for truth.
In theological matters our openness and honesty in investigating all things pertaining to 'God' and religious belief-systems must always be at the core too, and this may include modifications in our points of view or even whole paradigm shifts. A student of reality must therefore always question and remain open to learning new facts, knowledge, relationships and language within any given field or context. This could include the entire spectrum from theism to atheism, gnostic to agnostic perspectives, all possible points of view.
Concerning 'God' being a programmed concept, this may be the case, so such a 'program' may be more or less erroneous, distorted or useful depending on the terms, values, meaning and language being used in the program description. Mushrooms could enhance one's receptivity to subjective sense impressions conditioned by one's psychological disposition or belief-system, while also in general opening their minds to the greater realm of cosmic consciousness.
A 'God' or 'gods' may or may not be involved in the process. What reality is always at heart is the presence of consciousness itself prior to words, descriptions or appearances.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Hence the place for intellectual honesty in religious/spiritual concerns,...and the bravery to question what you believe and why.
Ah still struggling with your imagination gaylight. Smh
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