No need, for the reason stated in Post #50 itself---unless, that is, you're able to provide the proof requested there...?
So, then, no actual proof whatsoever. That's what I thought. Therefore---as observed in Post #50 above---your subsequent doctrinal opinions are simply that, and can carry no theological weight of any kind. End of discussion.When you address the entirety of my post I will be willing to discuss my observation with you further.
So, then, no actual proof whatsoever. That's what I thought. Therefore---as observed in Post #50 above---your subsequent doctrinal opinions are simply that, and can carry no theological weight of any kind. End of discussion.
It seems that I need to point out that your post cannot stand as your post never addressed my actual observations. Saying that it does is simply a failure on your part to address your opponents points thus you concede the point and I win the point.
Your observations mean exactly nothing since they assume a doctrinal authority on the part of your chosen recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect that you have yet to actually demonstrate. Back to Post #63 above.It seems that I need to point out that your post cannot stand as your post never addressed my actual observations.
Only because the same points repeatedly apply to the "arguments" that non-Catholics here tend to put forth. If you want a different response, you'll need to try a different approach.It seems, that all Cruciform is capable of is to state the same stuff over and over again, regardless of what any of us write or point out.
... you'll need to try a different approach.
Your observations mean exactly nothing since they assume a doctrinal authority on the part of your chosen recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect that you have yet to actually demonstrate. Back to Post #63 above.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
Romans 1:16-17 King James Version (KJV)
No.My, but aren't you defensive!
Post #63. Still waiting for your proof.An odd response to some observations regarding human nature.
Luther added to it.Luther believed it...
Christ's one historic Catholic Church was preaching the text that you quoted for fifteen centuries before a single Protestant ever managed to stumble onto the scene. Try again....you don't.
A completely unbiblical 16th-century Protestant invention that was entirely unheard of in the Christian Church for the first millennium-and-a-half of Christian history. For details, see this and this.Sola Fide!
If it was being preached properly, why was it the cry of the Reformation?Luther added to it.
Christ's one historic Catholic Church was preaching the text that you quoted for fifteen centuries before a single Protestant ever managed to stumble onto the scene. Try again.
A completely unbiblical 16th-century Protestant invention that was entirely unheard of in the Christian Church for the first millennium-and-a-half of Christian history. For details, see this and this.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
Because the "reformers"---who couldn't even agree among themselves regarding salvation---pridefully separated themselves from Christ's one historic Church and her teachings, deciding instead to formulate Christian doctrine for themselves (that is, to become their own ultimate doctrinal authority). Result: 50,000+ entirely non-authoritative recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sects to date, with more being concocted every week. A hopelessly subjective interpretive chaos.If it was being preached properly, why was it the cry of the Reformation?
Your basic ignorance of ecclesiastical history is noted (again).Ignatias founded the Catholic Church....then commited suicide
No.
Post #63. Still waiting for your proof.
Unfortunately, the proof you were asked to provide (Post #50) has nothing to do with the Catholic Church, but with your preferred man-made sect. Here, I'll post it again:Okay. Here is proof that the CC is defined by its doctrines and dogmas.