Yes.
In the story of the Prodigal Son, he is said to be dead, but still chooses to return to his father's home where he became alive again.
Can a Man Believe While NOT In Christ?
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In the story of the Prodigal Son, he is said to be dead, but still chooses to return to his father's home where he became alive again.
Those that don't accept and believe go straight to hell
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This scripture is about a mind GOVERNED by the FLESH. Not everyone's mind is governed by the flesh.
Romans 8:7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so.
This scripture is where Paul tries to explain how one under the old law struggles with sin without having faith. Not everyone struggles with sin.
Romans 7:6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
1Mind1Spirit
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Could this apply to those who are eating out of the Left Behind fables?
When will they/you return home?
You sin everyday whether you think you "struggle" with it or not. Bible perverter
Has nothing to do with "Left Behind fables".
It was an answer to Samie as an example of about how one can be dead and still be able to accept and believe.
1Mind1Spirit
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Yes, it does.
Your answer was a bad example.
The prodigal son had already known home.
Not the same thing as an unbeliever.
The prodigal son was twice dead.
No, it doesn't.
No it wasn't.
Samie asked for a biblical example of one being "dead" that can still be able to accept and believe a different destination than the one he was presently in.
I provided a biblical example of one being "dead" that could still chose to go to the father.
1Mind1Spirit
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Maybe Samie could tell us if he/she meant once dead or twice?
Left Behind feeders, like the prodigal son, are the latter.
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The prodigal son is ORIGINALLY born into the family of his father. And that's you and me and everyone else because of what our Father in heaven did FOR us through His Son. We are ALREADY in the Family of God; already IN Christ.
If like the prodigal, we choose to live a way of life NOT in accord with the Father's will, then the fact that the prodigal was able to do it is evidence of FREEWILL. And to live the life the prodigal lived is living like dead (1 Tim 5:6). This is why we are admonished to overcome evil with good or get blotted out from the book of life (Rev 3:5). And the prodigal did overcome the evil of living a wayward life by deciding to return to his father's home and submit himself to the father's authority again.
The case of the prodigal is unlike the situation a vast majority of preachers tell of people PRIOR to their acceptance of Christ. While the prodigal is ORIGINALLY born into the family of his father, preachers depict people prior to their belief and acceptance as being NOT yet born in the Family of God.
Doesn't matter where he was before concerning the answer to the question in the OP ....
The Prodigal Son was "dead" when he made the decision to go and live with his father.
As to "how" a man could accept and believe while still spiritually dead, I believe you may have answered that yourself by the following quote.
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You do not deserve a reply, except to say you do not deserve a reply. I believe there are people here who need mental help. I hope you get it, but you probably won't.
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It does matter. I know because I wrote the OP. And my position has always been people are born already in the Family of God.
You teach that people are born NOT in the Family of God. To be in the Family of God, one has to believe first. And that's what the OP is questioning. This is why the case of the prodigal does not apply.
You are mistaken.
Some are, some aren't.
Israel is God's chosen people. Lot's of folks were born unto Israel.
All are.
God wants all to be saved. But only overcomers will not be blotted out from the book of life.