Calvinism Dishonors God and Insults Jesus Christ

Nanja

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He can't believe that Christ saves to the uttermost if he believes that sinners Christ died for still wind up lost in hell!


Right, the false god and savior he serves was a failure to save all those he died for.

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Robert Pate

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Right, the false god and savior he serves was a failure to save all those he died for.

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God does not impose salvation on anyone.

All that God does he does corporately, through his Son Jesus Christ. God does nothing outside of Jesus Christ.

You have NOT been predestinated. Simply because... "God is no respecter of persons" Acts 10:34.
 

popsthebuilder

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But you teach against Christ, stating that sinners He died for wind up in hell!
Though the Christ was crucified for the sins of all; if one; saved by Christ and given faith and that Holy Spirit, then denies such and continues in knowing sin then they do not accept what Christ did for them and will indeed be judged for by their error.

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Nihilo

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Though the Christ was crucified for the sins of all; if one; saved by Christ and given faith and that Holy Spirit, then denies such and continues in knowing sin then they do not accept what Christ did for them and will indeed be judged for by their error.

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That's Catholic.
 

beloved57

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Faith that is from God honors Jesus Christ by confessing that Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

That leaves you out.

Though the Christ was crucified for the sins of all; if one; saved by Christ and given faith and that Holy Spirit, then denies such and continues in knowing sin then they do not accept what Christ did for them and will indeed be judged for by their error.

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No scripture says that. Those Christ died for are reconciled to God, made righteous, while they are enemies Rom 5:10,19
 

beloved57

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Faith that is from God honors Jesus Christ by confessing that Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

That leaves you out.

God does not impose salvation on anyone.

All that God does he does corporately, through his Son Jesus Christ. God does nothing outside of Jesus Christ.

You have NOT been predestinated. Simply because... "God is no respecter of persons" Acts 10:34.
All invalid comments. You show the utmost dishonor to Christ, teaching that sinners He died for, put away their sins, still wind up lost in their sins!
 

Nanja

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God does not impose salvation on anyone.

All that God does he does corporately, through his Son Jesus Christ. God does nothing outside of Jesus Christ.


All the Elect, the Sheep Christ died for John 10:11.15 were corporately reconciled to God, In Union with Christ Eph. 1:4, while being enemies and unbelievers, not based on anything they do, or condition they meet, but solely on account of Christ's death for them.

Rom. 5:8-10
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


In the Everlasting Covenant, or New Covenant, Christ was made a Surety for His Sheep Heb. 7:22, those Father Elected in Union with Him before the foundation Eph 1:4 to have remission / forgiveness of sins Eph 1:7.

Is. 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way;
and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all [The Sheep].

And He was risen from the dead as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep.

Heb. 13:20-21
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus,
that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is
wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.


You have NOT been predestinated. Simply because... "God is no respecter of persons" Acts 10:34.


It's a scriptural fact that God had chosen and predesinated some to inherit Eternal Life Eph. 1:4-11, His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23, whom He Saved and Called according to His own Purpose and Grace, given them in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9!


And BTW, Acts 10:34 simply means jew as well as gentile. God's Elect, the Israel of God Is. 45:17, are persons of every nation in the earth Acts 10:35; Rev. 5:9. He Loves every one of them!

Rom. 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

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Crucible

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That's Catholic.

They preach the Pelagian heresy, vastly misleading people- but when push comes to shove, they become 'semi-Pelagian'.

They don't want to accept that God is truly in control- they are their own god until they need something they can't fulfill on their own :rolleyes:
 

beloved57

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Faith that is from God honors Jesus Christ by confessing that Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

That leaves you out.

All the Elect, the Sheep Christ died for John 10:11.15 were corporately reconciled to God, In Union with Christ Eph. 1:4, while being enemies and unbelievers, not based on anything they do, or condition they meet, but solely on account of Christ's death for them.

Rom. 5:8-10
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


In the Everlasting Covenant, or New Covenant, Christ was made a Surety for His Sheep Heb. 7:22, those Father Elected in Union with Him before the foundation Eph 1:4 to have remission / forgiveness of sins Eph 1:7.

Is. 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way;
and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all [The Sheep].

And He was risen from the dead as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep.

Heb. 13:20-21
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus,
that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is
wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.





It's a scriptural fact that God had chosen and predesinated some to inherit Eternal Life Eph. 1:4-11, His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23, whom He Saved and Called according to His own Purpose and Grace, given them in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9!


And BTW, Acts 10:34 simply means jew as well as gentile. God's Elect, the Israel of God Is. 45:17, are persons of every nation in the earth Acts 10:35; Rev. 5:9. He Loves every one of them!

Rom. 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

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Amen Sister!
 

Robert Pate

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Amen Sister!


Jesus claims to be the savior of the world, John 12:47.

You ignore these scriptures and pretend that they are not in the Bible.

You have to do that, because your Calvinist doctrine depends upon it.

This is the one doctrine that will probably send you to hell, simply because it is the foundation of the Gospel.

If Jesus did not atone for the sins of the world, then Jesus is not Lord.

You apparently do not believe that Jesus is Lord.
 

beloved57

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Jesus claims to be the savior of the world, John 12:47.

You ignore these scriptures and pretend that they are not in the Bible.

You have to do that, because your Calvinist doctrine depends upon it.

This is the one doctrine that will probably send you to hell, simply because it is the foundation of the Gospel.

If Jesus did not atone for the sins of the world, then Jesus is not Lord.

You apparently do not believe that Jesus is Lord.

Don't you teach that people Christ died for, shed His Blood for, still wind up lost in their sins !
 

Crucible

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Calvinism 'dishonors God' because it acknowledges God's immutable sovereignty.

:doh:

Anti-Calvinists patently dishonor God.
 

beloved57

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The Bible plainly teaches that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, Hebrews 2:9, 1 John 2:2, 1 John 4:14.

Nothing is dishonoring to the Son of God and His Precious Blood, as is the lie you teach that people He shed His Precious Blood for wind up lost in their sins!
 
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