biology, not your subjective "feelings"

[Stripe]

The best point the speaker in the video makes is that an argument from authority is just bad logic and has no place in any sort of rational discussion. He then goes on to produce an argument from authority.

But you won't describe the fallacious arguments he used.

I think we know why.

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[Jonahdog]

If you were as well-versed in biology as you claim, you'd know that there is no "switch during development"; sex is determined at conception.

Well, that is not the real question. The question is what happens along the way in development that may affect XX and XY. But, Stripe, that requires some finesse and understanding that you seem to lack since you need things black and white.

 

[glassjester]

Well, that is not the real question. The question is what happens along the way in development that may affect XX and XY. But, Stripe, that requires some finesse and understanding that you seem to lack since you need things black and white.

So are you saying that the vast majority of people are male or female at conception, but some (due to a rare abnormality) may not be?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Absent a birth defect, it works exactly that way, i am assuming you failed biology in high school.

No doubt, he/she has had MANY failings in his/her life.

 

[Selaphiel]

If there's any authority he appealed to, then it's the authority of objective fact. And that's an authority we (should) all agree on.

Which objective fact is that?

The biology of gender is a lot more complex than a simple binary of XX/XY. In short, this is an area of biology that is evolving and changing. To say that the gender binary is an objective fact is a simplification that is brushing against being erroneous.

http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

Also, this thread title is so ironic on a board where so many of those who agree with Shapiro probably are creationists...Can't make this stuff up.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

And you knew where you were then
Girls were girls, and men were men

Several good points in this video.

"I'm not going to modify basic biology because it threatens your subjective sense of what you are."
(In other words, don't tell me I must pretend you are something you are not just to satisfy your "feelings". "Feelings" do not trump truth.)

I had to laugh when looking at the bottom left side of the video which showed the Alt Right symbol of Donald Trump/Pepe the Frog.

Was the Alt Right person who made this video not aware that his or her movement is anti Jew?

How Pepe the Frog Became a Nazi Trump Supporter and Alt-Right Symbol
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...azi-trump-supporter-and-alt-right-symbol.html

Was the Alt Right person who made this video not also aware that Ben Shapiro is against the Alt Right movement?

The naked truth about the Alt-Right movement
By: Ben Shapiro | August 11, 2016 -
See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/...t-the-alt-right-movement#sthash.4kfk1tyg.dpuf

Was the Alt Right person who made this video (and all of the Trump supporters who are applauding it) not aware that Donald Trump was and still is a big supporter of the transgender movement?
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-4&p=4921518&viewfull=1#post4921518

 

[Right Divider]

Which objective fact is that?

The biology of gender is a lot more complex than a simple binary of XX/XY. In short, this is an area of biology that is evolving and changing. To say that the gender binary is an objective fact is a simplification that is brushing against being erroneous.

http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

Also, this thread title is so ironic on a board where so many of those who agree with Shapiro probably are creationists...Can't make this stuff up.

So your ultimate authority is man instead of God?

Mark 10:6 (AKJV/PCE)​

(10:6) But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
​

You're in the majority, the wrong majority.

 

[Selaphiel]

So your ultimate authority is man instead of God?

Mark 10:6 (AKJV/PCE)​

(10:6) But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
​

You're in the majority, the wrong majority.

But the OP is claiming that biology says. Last time I checked, the gospel of Mark is not a book on biology.

 

[Right Divider]

But the OP is claiming that biology says. Last time I checked, the gospel of Mark is not a book on biology.

So the book of Mark is wrong? It is making a clearly biological claim there.

 

[glassjester]

Which objective fact is that?

The biology of gender is a lot more complex than a simple binary of XX/XY. In short, this is an area of biology that is evolving and changing. To say that the gender binary is an objective fact is a simplification that is brushing against being erroneous.

http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

Also, this thread title is so ironic on a board where so many of those who agree with Shapiro probably are creationists...Can't make this stuff up.

So if a man says he's a woman... you believe him?

 

[glassjester]

Which objective fact is that?

The biology of gender is a lot more complex than a simple binary of XX/XY. In short, this is an area of biology that is evolving and changing. To say that the gender binary is an objective fact is a simplification that is brushing against being erroneous.

http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

Also, this thread title is so ironic on a board where so many of those who agree with Shapiro probably are creationists...Can't make this stuff up.

What's the difference between male and female? Do male and female even exist?

 

[glassjester]

Selaphiel - Do you think a human can be objectively, biologically male?

 

[MrDante]

So the book of Mark is wrong? It is making a clearly biological claim there.

The bible also claims that bats are birds, rabbits chew cud and there are insects with 4 limbs

 

[Right Divider]

The bible also claims that bats are birds, rabbits chew cud and there are insects with 4 limbs

Your silly opinions are duly noted.

 

[quip]

Selaphiel - Do you think a human can be objectively, biologically male?

Is hermaphroditism not a biological condition?

 

[MrDante]

If there's any authority he appealed to, then it's the authority of objective fact. And that's an authority we (should) all agree on.

if he were using objective facts then he wouldn't have to rely on projecting his own feelings and opinions.

 

[MrDante]

Your silly opinions are duly noted.

You're rejecting what the bible says????

 

[glassjester]

Is hermaphroditism not a biological condition?

We can go that route, if you'd like. But first - are you saying that every non-hermaphroditic human is objectively male or female?

 

[glassjester]

if he were using objective facts then he wouldn't have to rely on projecting his own feelings and opinions.

What opinion of his did he present?

 

[MrDante]

What opinion of his did he present?

Really not interested in playing your games.

Before you try to pretend you aren't playing a game why not actually answer Selaphiel's question.