ECT Be filled with the Spirit.

Lazy afternoon

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Hi,



Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.


Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.


Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Eph 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.


Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Eph 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;


I doubt that the proponents of the doctrine of MAD take any notice of these verses.

All of the early church was filled with the Holy spirit upon their conversion from the kingdom of darkness to the Kingdom of Gods Son.

However as the MADists do not obey these verses, and do not believe in most anything else the early church experienced is for them,

then why is it that these verses are preached by Paul and included in instructions to Christ's Church which is His Body, which is His Bride?

Act 13:52 And the disciples were filled with joy, and with the Holy Ghost.

Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

LA
 

oatmeal

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That God wants us to use that gift of holy spirit is indisputable.

But like anything else in God's word, people need to learn God's word on the subject, not the National Enquirer version of scripture.
 

OCTOBER23

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GET BAPTISED AND RECEIVE THE SPIRIT

AFTER CHRISTIAN PASTORS HANDS ARE LAID ON YOU.

Acts 8:17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
 

Lazy afternoon

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GET BAPTISED AND RECEIVE THE SPIRIT

AFTER CHRISTIAN PASTORS HANDS ARE LAID ON YOU.

True elders are okay but if not then the one preaching can..

My wife was not saved (reconciled to God) until 6 years after myself, and she was hostile toward the idea of baptism until the Lord spoke to her Himself when she was hanging washing on the line.

The Lord said "Be baptized everyone of you"

I was at work at the time and when I got home she said "guess what". I said "you will be baptized". The Lord told me at work I was not sure of His voice then.

I called a few saints and we baptized her in the bathtub in the name of Jesus Christ.

Her countenance lit up and her frown was removed, and she said she felt like bubbling lemonade.

She got saved after I had given up my efforts, and I can look back and can see I would have made a mess of her faith if the Lord did not put it off until then.

Quite a few friends and family then followed the same course.

We left the city and everything to the country near a small town.

LA
 

DAN P

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That God wants us to use that gift of holy spirit is indisputable.

But like anything else in God's word, people need to learn God's word on the subject, not the National Enquirer version of scripture.


Hi , and just where in Eph 5:18 does it say it is a GIFT ?

What does it mean " to be Filled by Holy Spirit ."

The Greek article " the " is not used before Holy Spirit ! why is it not ?

Since you talk in Tongues , ask the Holy Spirit to help you , BUT how can you , since it is an Un-known Tongue ??

Have no FEAR I can help you as we will PRAY through !!:yawn::yawn:

dan p
 

Lazy afternoon

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A lot of spooky voodoo in this thread.

It seems that way to the unwashed.

Act 22:13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
Act 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
Act 22:15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
 

DAN P

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Hi , and just where in Eph 5:18 does it say it is a GIFT ?

What does it mean " to be Filled by Holy Spirit ."

The Greek article " the " is not used before Holy Spirit ! why is it not ?

Since you talk in Tongues , ask the Holy Spirit to help you , BUT how can you , since it is an Un-known Tongue ??

Have no FEAR I can help you as we will PRAY through !!:yawn::yawn:

dan p


Hi , and I see that you have a problem eith Rph 5:18 and are AVOIDING what " filled by Holy Spirit " means ??

What does the Greek Article " THE " means and signifys ?:D:rotfl::rotfl:

You say that your version , does not have that Phrase ??

Most people have , likje you , know understanding , JUST what the Holy Spirit does in the Dispensation of Grace , anyway !!:wave::darwinsm::darwinsm:

dan p
 
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Livelystone

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True elders are okay but if not then the one preaching can..

My wife was not saved (reconciled to God) until 6 years after myself, and she was hostile toward the idea of baptism until the Lord spoke to her Himself when she was hanging washing on the line.

The Lord said "Be baptized everyone of you"

I was at work at the time and when I got home she said "guess what". I said "you will be baptized". The Lord told me at work I was not sure of His voice then.

I called a few saints and we baptized her in the bathtub in the name of Jesus Christ.

Her countenance lit up and her frown was removed, and she said she felt like bubbling lemonade.

She got saved after I had given up my efforts, and I can look back and can see I would have made a mess of her faith if the Lord did not put it off until then.

Quite a few friends and family then followed the same course.

We left the city and everything to the country near a small town.

LA

Nice post :thumb:
 

Livelystone

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So you saw "something" in me, yet I'm unwashed.

You're a very confused person.

None of us are fully clean nor was Paul in the following verse

Romans 7:23 (KJV) But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members

Jesus and Adam (for a limited time) were the only two men who ever walked on earth without the law of sin living within them. As the word "law" is being used here indicates a power AKA a principality that by definition is a life giving force albeit one already sentenced to death.

This "law of sin" lives in every person ever born including Christians who have been baptized with the Holy Spirit because they still have this unclean "spirit and soul" of man (Adam & Eve) living within them.

In a time appointed there will be some who will be completely cleansed (perfected) that is a part of the Tabernacles Blessing (latter rain) the same as the gift of salvation that is the Holy Spirit upon an obedient believer is/was a blessing of Pentecost.

To qualify for a Tabernacles blessing one must first gain the truth of the seven foundational doctrines of Christ in us as they are listed in Heb.6:1-2 that will allow them to become "wise virgins" who may qualify for the wedding unlike all of the foolish virgins who are turned away that all Pentecost blessing recipients automatically became upon receiving the Holy Spirit who do not yet qualify.
 

Cross Reference

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Hi , and I see that you have a problem eith Rph 5:18 and are AVOIDING what " filled by Holy Spirit " means ??

What does the Greek Article " THE " means and signifys ?:D:rotfl::rotfl:

You say that your version , does not have that Phrase ??

Most people have , likje you , know understanding , JUST what the Holy Spirit does in the Dispensation of Grace , anyway !!:wave::darwinsm::darwinsm:

dan p

The dispensing of time for grace to happen is seen from Genesis through Revelations.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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So you saw "something" in me, yet I'm unwashed.

You're a very confused person.

Next, he'll be predicting a horrible sequence of events that
will lead to your, Ultra-destructive demise? Believe me, you
don't want that! So, walk softly around this, "self-styled"
predictor of imminent mayhem and ultimate death!
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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LazyA has an extraordinary ability to predict, be-headings, and death by
experienced Archers who can shoot you so full of arrows, they'll turn you
into a "Human pin cushion" in a matter of seconds!
 

way 2 go

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Hi,


I doubt that the proponents of the doctrine of MAD take any notice of these verses.

All of the early church was filled with the Holy spirit upon their conversion from the kingdom of darkness to the Kingdom of Gods Son.

However as the MADists do not obey these verses, and do not believe in most anything else the early church experienced is for them,

then why is it that these verses are preached by Paul and included in instructions to Christ's Church which is His Body, which is His Bride?


LA


Israel is the bride with the covenant

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine;
Exo 19:8 All the people answered together and said, "All that the LORD has spoken we will do." And Moses reported the words of the people to the LORD.


Gentiles are the body of Christ ,
1Co 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.

that would make us the bridegroom :wave2:


Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Paul preached to those that are in the body of Christ that you can not add to your salvation
 

heir

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The dispensing of time for grace to happen is seen from Genesis through Revelations.

Ephesians 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Ephesians 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
 
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