What do you mean by "genetic integrity"?
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Bacterial resistance to antibiotics- what is the Creationist explanation?
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What do you mean by "genetic integrity"?
The capacity for a population's genome to produce variations. For example, the ancestor population of horses had greater genetic integrity than today's zebra population. In other words, the ancestral genome produced all the horse varieties we have today, but zebras could never do the same.
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The term 'hardwired' in the article is being used by secularists. You can argue with them about their terminology. I understand why you reject terminology that implies intelligence. What I said was "it would seem that God hardwired the programming and mechanisms into bacteria."Barbarian said:
[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]From a Christian standpoint, we know God is the designer. It is our Creator who programmed life; it is He who did the 'wiring'. [/FONT]
Well... Women are a wonderful thing, and this is how God says he did it. "So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man." you can find out about many other wonderful things God made in Genesis 1, and on which day he created them.Barbarian said:
If you think science says anything on any topic, you don't understand science. Science is the study of the world around us using observation and experiments. Science helps confirm the biblical creation model, and provides an additional avenue of worship of our creatorBarbarian said:
How do you know this? Where's the proof?
Even your guys are more inclined to "front-loading." "Hard-wired" would mean those new mutations were always in the genome and we know that's not true. Would you like to learn how we know that? Meantime, IDer Michael Denton says about that issue:
t is important to emphasize at the outset that the argument presented here is entirely consistent with the basic naturalistic assumption of modern science--that the cosmos is a seamless unity which can be comprehended in its entirety by human reason and in which all phenomena, including life and evolution and the origin of man, are ultimately explicable in terms of natural processes. This is an assumption which is entirely opposed to that of the so-called "special creationist school." According to special creationism, living organisms are not natural forms, whose origin and design were built into the laws of nature from the beginning, but rather contingent forms analogous in essence to human artifacts, the result of a series of supernatural acts, involving God's direct intervention in the course of nature, each of which involved the suspension of natural law. Contrary to the creationist position, the whole argument presented here is critically dependent on the presumption of the unbroken continuity of the organic world--that is, on the reality of organic evolution and on the presumption that all living organisms on earth are natural forms in the profoundest sense of the word, no less natural than salt crystals, atoms, waterfalls, or galaxies.
In large measure, therefore, the teleological argument presented here and the special creationist worldview are mutually exclusive accounts of the world. In the last analysis, evidence for one is evidence against the other. Put simply, the more convincing is the evidence for believing that the world is prefabricated to the end of life, that the design is built into the laws of nature, the less credible becomes the special creationist worldview.
Michael Denton, Nature's Destiny (my emphasis)
You can argue with him about his terminology. I understand why you reject terminology that implies an omnipotent Creator. God is much wiser and more powerful than YE creationists are willing to let Him be.
See above. Your own people admit that teleology of any kind is inconsistent with your new doctrines.
From a Christian standpoint, God is the Creator, not some mere created designer.
See above. You seem to be at odds with your own people on this issue.
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Indeed... neither of our world views regarding the origin of life can be verified in a materialist scientific way.
God describes one way that He created man and another way that He created woman.
Your foolishness is tiring.
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I'm glad you agree that Michael Denton, the Discovery Institute, and Intelligent Design are false and anti-Bible.
That's what I just showed you. He thinks the universe is "designed." That's not what Christians believe. But notice that even IDers don't buy your new doctrine of YE creationism.
Goes without saying. IDers imagine the "designer" to be "maybe a space alien."
But YE creationists thought it sounded all deep and sciencey, and started using some of the jargon. Big mistake.
IDers misrepresent both science AND the Bible! It's good to see YECs coming up to speed on this point.
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Quit LYING about what people are posting!
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That is probably the dumbest thing that you've posted here.
6days
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Embarrassed yourself again, didn't you?Barbarian said:
Rom. 1:20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.
21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused.
It's a definition. Like what you asked for.
True. It's a definition.But it is not what is happening in those cell cultures, or in evolution in general.
So where's your evidence that genetic diversity decreases in these cases?