Are you a son of God? Is God your heavenly father?
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Cherry-picking is no way to try to understand the scripture.
oatmeal
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I John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Huh? What do you know?
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Huh? What do you know?
oatmeal
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Since you do not reply to my questions, you sidestep the issue
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I simply know that you do not understand the details of the scripture that you cherry-pick.
oatmeal
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Well, talk is cheap.
Show me
For that matter, what is the matter with cherry picking?
If I go to a cherry tree to pick cherries, am I supposed to expect to find peaches? broccoli? trout?
When I go to a cherry tree to harvest fruit off of a good tree, I cherry pick
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If you have a point to your thread, you should make it.
oatmeal
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If you have done Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Then you are and you then have access and boldness to go to God anytime
oatmeal
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No, I don't. Like too many here on TOL, you like to beat around the bush
Speak plainly... Get to the point.
oatmeal
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Why do you accuse me of cherry picking?
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For one thing... because you will not plainly state your point.
oatmeal
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Read the verses
Are you a son of God?
Is God your heavenly Father?
Answer the questions and we can take it from there
ttruscott
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Everyone created was a Son of GOD and they all saw the creation of the physical universe: Job 38:7 while the morning stars sang together and ALL the Sons of GOD shouted for joy? In this place, Sons of GOD is often translated as angels, a bit of a "slight of eisegesis" as they don't want anyone to think the Church, the Sons of GOD, are included here...
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oatmeal
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Yes, the reference you provided refer to angels not humans. Yes, all those created in the image of God are sons of God in this age of grace.
Adam was not a literal son of God by procreation. The image of God is spirit, John 4:24. Those born again of God's spirit are literal sons of God.
As born again sons of God in this age of grace, we are born again of seed, incorruptible seed, we are not adopted, but literal sons of
God by seed,
I Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
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Why do you suppose that Paul never once mentions being "born again"?
ttruscott
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Prove that these spirits who were created in HIS image never became born as humans.
Job 38:7 while the morning stars sang together and ALL the Sons of GOD shouted for joy? uses the worlds bene elohim, not mal'ach. What is your proof that your eisegesis of changing Sons of GOD to angel is proper?
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Fallacious reasoning, you use.
oatmeal
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He didn't have to God had Peter write that down