elohiym
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Keep up the good preaching.
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She never proved that grace is unmerited.
Can you?
Keep up the good preaching.
:yawn:
She never proved that grace is unmerited.
Can you?
NO ONE deserves God's grace.
Nothing legalistic about it.
Even when we were dead in sins (undeserving)....
Eph. 2:4-5
But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved; )
Why?
Because we deserved it? NO. So that in the ages to come, He might show the exceeding riches of HIS GRACE .....through CHRIST JESUS.
Eph. 2:7
That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
A gift....underserved....NOT OF YOURSELVES....NOT OF WORKS...
Eph. 2: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph. 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Yet you want to boast, "I DESERVED God's mercy and Grace."
Boasting is EXCLUDED, yet you humanists insist on boasting that you deserve God's Grace.
Ephesians 2:8,9 is very clear.
It doesn't mean grace is unmerited, only that it's not earned by works.
A child merits his parent's love. It has nothing to do with having earned that love by doing chores. God is the Father of us all (Acts 17:28-29), which is why he loves the world, not just you and GD. I thought you used to believe this, but I obviously never knew you.
"What's your point? You'd be stupid for deliberately enticing a hungry animal to attack you,"
One would think the almighty has bigger fish to fry.
I thought you used to believe this, but I obviously never knew you.
You must be MuslimNot essentially nude but bearing midriff, exposed thigh and cleavage etc. Are they enticing men or women to sin?
Rather astonishing, isn't it? Thankfully some of us don't base our morals on who we like or dislike but rather on right VS wrong.
Due to the way glamour models (in their revealing and seductive clothing) present themselves, IF enticing men is the standard that is being used, they are immoral. At least that would be consistent.
If I walk back and forth in front of the cage of a hungry tiger carrying a raw t-bone in each hand, I'm going to bear some degree of responsibility for my stupidity if that tiger reaches its paw between the bars and snags me.
some here would say. And that is absolutely right. Except that some of those same have already equated rapists with animals, which I also agree with.
Difference is, it's impossible to know which men, and sometimes even women, are really sub-human animals awaiting a chance to victimize you. It's impossible to know with certainty who is who, or when.
The stupidest parts of all of these threads are the selective appeals to human rationality - you simply can't count on it, sometimes even when you think you safely can - and the selective application of personal responsibility...make unwise choices, like deliberately enticing what could be a hungry animal, and you're probably going to suffer for it.
You must be Muslim
You seem to suggest bundling up--or something--because women should assume the worst. Unfortunately, often being a woman is dangerous enough.
Enticing men seems to pay off if one is willing to sell oneself.
If there were no market there would be no product.
People are free to make their own choices.
I thank God for His guiding hand in my life.
And I do not presume to think myself better than any other of His sons and daughters. I do, however, try to be a good witness and stay away from things that I find unappealing.
If I walk back and forth in front of the cage of a hungry tiger carrying a raw t-bone in each hand, I'm going to bear some degree of responsibility for my stupidity if that tiger reaches its paw between the bars and snags me.
You stupid clot if I lost control of my tongue you would be the first to benefit. But as it is, I know that God loves you just as God loves me.
Your arrogance is duly noted. You have nothing to say to me that has any Christian love in it at all.
Am I to understand from this that if a naked woman was walking in front of you, you simply could not control yourself any more than a tiger would if you held a steak in front of it?
Perhaps you need counseling of some sort. Most decent human beings have some semblance of self-control
That makes one a legalist (Phil 3:5).[Good thing we don't get what we deserve.] Some don't like that. They think you need to deserve what you get.
His mercy is from old. His wrath is from old, too. Rom. 2:5–8They cling to the old reap what you sow and eye for an eye bit.
:yawn: Christians love God's mercy. :straight: Ps. 25:6Mercy is beyond their scope.
You are a rarity, Bybee. A Christian who lives up to the title. I have seen you act as Jesus wanted his followers to. If anyone on this forum is worthy of him, it is you.
Am I to understand from this that if a naked woman was walking in front of you, you simply could not control yourself any more than a tiger would if you held a steak in front of it?