Revelation 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
These tensed expressions show that God exists in an endless duration of time. The past, present, and future is meaningful to His experience. Timelessness cannot be derived from this text. He is the Beginning and End, the First and the Last. He is from everlasting to everlasting (Ps. 90:2...note the tensed reference point in the verse= 'before').
A word study on 'eternal' and 'everlasting' will bring clarity. Eternity does not mean timelessness. The pagan roots of this can be documented. The OT Hebraic view is a covenant God in history, not an abstract God in a 4th dimension.
What is your myriad of texts to support timelessness? I could guess at a few proof texts, but they would have an alternate understanding.
I do not want to believe a preconceived idea. I want to base my ideas on biblical evidence. On this topic, logical and philosophical issues come into play. Your simplistic view shows that you have not interacted with the wealth of literature that wrestles with this important subject. You believe a traditional view without understanding strengths and weaknesses of other views.
Relegating incoherence and unbiblical ideas to 'mystery' is a cop out for lazy thinking. God has given us revelation on His nature and ways. A Christian should do good science and philosophy to the glory of God.
These tensed expressions show that God exists in an endless duration of time. The past, present, and future is meaningful to His experience. Timelessness cannot be derived from this text. He is the Beginning and End, the First and the Last. He is from everlasting to everlasting (Ps. 90:2...note the tensed reference point in the verse= 'before').
A word study on 'eternal' and 'everlasting' will bring clarity. Eternity does not mean timelessness. The pagan roots of this can be documented. The OT Hebraic view is a covenant God in history, not an abstract God in a 4th dimension.
What is your myriad of texts to support timelessness? I could guess at a few proof texts, but they would have an alternate understanding.
I do not want to believe a preconceived idea. I want to base my ideas on biblical evidence. On this topic, logical and philosophical issues come into play. Your simplistic view shows that you have not interacted with the wealth of literature that wrestles with this important subject. You believe a traditional view without understanding strengths and weaknesses of other views.
Relegating incoherence and unbiblical ideas to 'mystery' is a cop out for lazy thinking. God has given us revelation on His nature and ways. A Christian should do good science and philosophy to the glory of God.