Archbishop of Canterbury "not embarrassed" over new father

Gurucam

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genuineoriginal and glassjester,

The sad fact is that the billion or so who are called Christians are being divided as we speak.

Of these billion who are called to Christianity only a few will make it, i.e. only a few are being chosen. This is based on Jesus' prophesy:

Matthew 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.


This division is being done according to:

Matthews: 25 KJV N.T.
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


Goats are the very great majority of those called to Christianity. They are members of large churches. They are under leaders of large numbers of followers. They are under leaders like Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby. And they are in churches like the one which Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, leads.

Sheep are only a few. They are the chosen few. They are the few voices delivering authentic KJV N.T. truth, in the wilderness.

Matthew: 3 KJV N.T.
3 For this is he that was spoken of by the Prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wildernes, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.”

At this point, it seems that, the voice in the wilderness is behind the recent public disclosure about Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby.

I urge you to not dismiss this disclosure by simply saying Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is not responsible for his mother's fornication, adultery and extramarital sex. Many people are probably brought forth in that way. However because they do not rise to be a prophet of many (millions) in a huge church, it does not concern anyone else.

No one is arguing against, 'Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is not responsible for his mother's fornication, adultery and extramarital sex', because that is not the point.

The red flag is that the circumstance of his birth resembles the case of Abraham, when he brought forth a child of the flesh who denied and persecuted the child of God. Fact is children of the flesh are goats. Where as children of God are sheep. And sheep are authentic Christians. So you should understand the concern.

. . . you guys are denying Jesus' voice in the wilderness so as to prop-up Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, any which way. Fact is:

Mark:4 KJV N.T.
22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.


Please take the disclosure with the Grace that it deserves.

Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is the leader of many (millions) who (by their sheer numbers) cannot be the chosen few, who are Christians. These millions cannot be the few who have truth. These millions are called and not yet chosen. They must be helped, any which way.

Based on the above KJV N.T. revelation, Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby can easily be a false prophet who is misleading many.

Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is of very little significance in this matter. The disclosed about his was done for expediency, for the benefit of the masses. In fact he could easily be a very serious liability. He must be put under very (actualized and) powerful microscopes . . . and so be it.
 
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genuineoriginal

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Only Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, matters here. Private individuals do not matter.
Welby doesn't matter at all.

What matters is that you are willing to overturn one of the fundamental principles of Christianity to justify your persecution of a man for the sins of his mother.

Stop being a goat.
 

Gurucam

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Welby doesn't matter at all.

What matters is that you are willing to overturn one of the fundamental principles of Christianity to justify your persecution of a man for the sins of his mother.

Stop being a goat.
Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, is just one man, in charge of millions. He cannot matter. As "Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury", Justin Welby is very very very very dispensable.

In additions to being just a man he is a man born from fornication, adultery and extramarital sex.

If it is expedient, Justin Welby can be 'Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury' today and totally gone from that post, tomorrow. Pray tell, what is the big deal.

For Christians, there is only one Lord that is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus. And there is only one God, the Father. Every one and every thing else is totally dispensable and disposable.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 but he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Romans: 9 KJV N.T.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.


Why are you being a false prophet who came in Jesus? Why are you denying the above very clear revelation which confirms that genes (i.e. who and what your mother and father are), directly determine who you are. (Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, included)

The above seems to confirm very clearly that: if one is born out of the fornication, adultery and extra marital sex of his parent then (like Ishmael) one is a child of the flesh who must be 'cast out'.

On the other hand one who is born out of marital sex is a child of God, like Issac, and will 'inherit'

The revelation also confirm very clearly that only the generation of Issac has the seed to bring forth children of God. Only one who is parented by a descendant of Issac can be a born child of God, who inherits.

However all who are brought forth from descendants of Ishmael are children of the flesh who are cast out.

Therefore the instruction from the KJV N.T. in the above revelation, is very clear. Mother and father determine the child. A son brought forth out of fornication, adultery and extramarital sex must be a born child of the flesh and not a born child of God.

Why are you desecrating and denying the KJV N.T. and simultaneously claiming to be Christian?

I reproduce the above revelation literally with absolutely no interpretation. The above is not in any way my view or my interpretation, because there was no interpreting.

If in your view, the above is not correct, then give your correction. Do not make false accusation against me.

Why would you deny people the right to know this fact from the KJV N.T, simply to prop-up and protect Justin Welby, who confirmed that he was brought forth the unfortunate and 'Antichrist' way, through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex, like Ishmael.

Wasn't Ishmael brought forth the unfortunate and 'Antichrist' way, through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex? Wasn't he a child of the flesh?

I am not making this up. This is scriptures. You have made up the idea that Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby can be different from his mother. The KJV N.T. say the very opposite, very clearly.

You are making up your own anti-scriptures thing.


Fact is if according to the KJV N.T., Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, is not good, then at all events, he must be quickly dismissed from his post of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury . . . so as to give his millions of followers a chance at getting a good leader.

If this is the case, Justin Welby can go back to being just plain Justin Welby, in an ordinary private life. What is the big deal?

The judgment of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, must be done according to revelations in the KJV N.T. and not according to your convenient, 'half baked', whimsical man-made ideas.

The KJV N.T. says that fornication, adultery and extramarital is not the way to bring forth a child of God. That is the way to bring forth a child of the flesh. That is not the Christian way.

The genetic link between mother and child is so well established that some countries are prepared to punish the parents for the transgression of their children.

At any event, it may not be Justin Welby's fault that he was brought forth through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex. And he need not be judged on that. However that does not change the fact that according to the above revelation, he was born a child of the flesh and not fit to be a Christian leader.

Fact is children are brought forth. They are not created. They are preexisting. This means that one who is born (brought forth) from fornication, adultery and extramarital sex was preexisting as a child of the flesh and therefore choose to be brought forth through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex . . . because he was not originally good enough to be brought forth through loving marital sex. He was simply a child of the flesh before and at birth.
 
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Gurucam

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genuineoriginal

At any event, it may not be Justin Welby's fault that his mother fornicated, committed adultery and had extramarital sex. And he need not be judged on that. However that does not change the fact that according to revelations in the KJV N.T., he was born from that and therefore a child of the flesh and not fit to be a Christian leader.

Fact is children are brought forth. They are not created. They are preexisting. This means that one who is born (brought forth) from fornication, adultery and extramarital sex was preexisting as a child of the flesh and therefore choose to be brought forth through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex . . . because he was not originally good enough to be brought forth through loving marital sex. He was simply a child of the flesh before and at birth.


The above can be the predicament of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby.

The following KJV N.T. verses are literally on the topic of marriage and bringing forth fruits of marriage:

Romans 7 King James Version (KJV)
1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God (with respect to marriages, fruits onto God are children of God).

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death (with respect to marriages, fruits onto death are children of the flesh).

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
(serving in the newness of spirit is about serving love)

The above is totally supported by the fact that Abraham brought forth two sons, through man and woman sexual procreation. One was a child of the flesh and the other a child of God.

Abraham's procreating partners literally and actually brought forth two different sons. One was a child of the flesh and the other a child of God.

Therefore it is literally possible to bring forth both children of the flesh and children of God. Romans: 7 verses: 4 to 6 above seems to be literally telling us how to bring forth children of God instead of children of the flesh. It seems to be in the manner of our sexual act.

This adds another dimension to Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby and the fact that he was brought forth through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex.

Fact is, if the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was led into fornicating, committing adultery and having extramarital sex by love (i.e. spirit), this is a totally different matter. Fact is God is Love and Love overrides, justifies and blesses everything.

When one is motivated to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex by love one invariably bring forth a child of God. This is the absence of fear and the presence of God.

1 John: 4 KJV N.T.
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.


When one is motivated to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex by love, the couple, the child and the act are all blessed by God. The couple, the child and the act are all justified and glorified by God. Such an offspring is worthy above others. This is more divine than being motivated to procreate by love, within a marriage.

There is no conquest of fear in a loving marriage. Therefore love is not made perfect in a loving marriage. It is only when love is truly real that one will be led to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex out of love. Therefore when one is led to fornicate commit adultery and have extramarital sex by love such love is perfect. It is real and pure. It is the pure essential fabric of God. Everything about and within that 'affair' is very divine.

Through love motivated sex, children of God are brought forth from spirit heaven. Such children were Christian before (in a previous life) and when they died they rose to heaven in three days to be like angels in heaven.


Mark: 12 KJV N.T.
25 For when they (Christians) shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

There, in spirit heaven, God knows them and predestine them to have priority births on earth (i.e. to be first born among many). Romans: 7 verses: 4 to 6 gives the instructions on how to bring forth such children of God from spirit heaven to earth.

(They are brought forth from spirit heaven to earth and into human embryos which are conceived through love motivated sex of couples . . . even if these acts are fornication, adultery and/or extramarital sex.

The following speaks about such children of God who are in spirit heaven:


Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.


Would it not be great if this was the circumstance of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, his mother and her act? There is no other Christian (KJV N.T.) principle to justify Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby.

However you are also, not prepared to accept this revelation about love motivated sex, although it is literally and clearly confirmed in Romans: 7 verses: 4 to 6 of the KJV N.T.


You seem to be drowning in corruption of the KJV N.T. and your blind and foolish state. This is the fullness of time. Get on board with truth, before too late is your cry.

Know the truth so that you can be saved and delivered. Do not wallow in foolishness and foolish baseless rhetoric. Clearly you do not know scriptures and the power of God.

Mark: 12 KJV N.T.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?


Those who err cannot be and are not chosen.
 
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genuineoriginal

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The judgment of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, must be done according to revelations in the KJV N.T. and not according to your convenient, 'half baked', whimsical man-made ideas.
You still haven't produced anything from the Bible, old or new testament, KJV, NIV, or other translation, that can be used to force Welby to leave his post.

Stop producing your 'half baked' whimsical man-made idea that you can hold a man guilty for the sin of his mother, or even that you can hold his mother for a sin she may have already repented of and been forgiven of by God.
 

Gurucam

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genuineoriginal,

Post # 64, above is the pure nectar of enlightenment in Christ.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
 

Gurucam

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All you have against Welby is that he was born.

The issue is not that Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was born.

Also it is clear that he was brought forth through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex. So this is not an issue.

The issue is about a finer Christian aspect about how Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was brought forth.

Was it through carnal fornication, carnal adultery and carnal extramarital sex? or

Was it through love motivated fornication, love motivated adultery and love motivated extramarital sex?

This is the issue.

. . . is he a child of lust or a child of love? This is the question.

Fact is lust is Satanic, where as Love is God.

Fact is, at all events (including fornication, adultery and extramarital sex), lust bring forth only children of the flesh and love bring forth only children of God.

Fact is, at all events (including in acceptable religious marriages), lust bring forth only children of the flesh and love bring forth only children of God.

Many people are in marriages that are perfect in religious acceptability, however they are having lustful or carnal sex in those unions. They are bringing forth only children of the flesh (also called children of Satan).

On the other hand many people are in marriages that are not acceptable according to religion, however they are having love motivated sex in those unions. They are bringing forth only children of God (also called fruits of Christianity).
 
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Gurucam

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genuineoriginal

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


'The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus' say that Love is supreme and one must be led, unconditionally into one's words, actions and prayers only by love which arises and is sustained, naturally and spontaneously in one's own heart for those specific people, things and circumstances in God's creation.

'To be free from the law of sin and death' means to have God given freedom to transgress the law of sin and death and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.

People who are in the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus bring forth only fruits onto God. That is when people who are in the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus have procreative sex, they always bring forth only children of God.

The above revelation confirms that people who are in the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, are free to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex in order to freely live the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

This is the only Christian law that can justify Justin Welby original and continuing appointment as Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury.

According to the KJV N.T., if the fornication, adultery and extramarital sex of the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, was not love motivated, then: Justin Welby was and is not worthy enough to be Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury.

However, according to the KJV N.T., if the fornication, adultery and extramarital sex of the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, was love motivated, then: Justin Welby was and is worthy enough to be Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury.

At all events, if one is brought forth by loveless fornication, adultery and extramarital sex, one is brought forth by lust and sin. And one is a child of lust and sin . . . a child of Satan.

At all events, if one is brought forth by love motivated fornication, adultery and extramarital sex, one is brought forth by grace of God. And one is a child of God and love.

1 John: 4 KJV N.T.
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


Fact is, at all events (even in fornication, adultery and extramarital sex), God is Love and Lust is Satan.

Fact is, at all events (even in fornication, adultery and extramarital sex), the presence of love (as the motivator) is the active presence and participation of God and only fruits of God/children of God are brought forth.

On the other hand, at all events (even in fornication, adultery and extramarital sex), the absence of love is the active absence of God. Then only fruits onto death/children of the flesh are brought forth.

The motivator of loveless actions is lust and carnality or Satan. Where as the motivator of love driven actions is literally the divine or God.

. . . and so be it.
 
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Gurucam

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Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.

22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.


genuineoriginal

The above exemplifies and confirms, a (God given) covenant that is applicable to all people.

The above need absolutely no interpretation. It confirms very clearly and literally that humans, through 'man and woman sexual procreative sex' can bring forth either children of the flesh who must be cast out or children of God who must inherit. This is plain, simple and straightforward, scriptures.

The well established and well accepted fact is that Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was brought forth (born) through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex of his mother.

The simple question cannot be and is not, what you are projecting. You are projecting that Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby cannot be responsible for his mother's fornication, adultery and extramarital sex, through which she brought him forth.

No one is denying your claim.

The fact and very important question is that although Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby might not be responsible for his mother's fornication, adultery and extramarital sex, through which she brought him forth, the KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that: he can be either a child of the flesh who must be cast out or a child of God who must inherit.

You are dwelling on and only repeating: "Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is not responsible for his mother's fornication, adultery and extramarital sex, through which she brought him forth". You seem to be a well trained human parrot.

That is clearly your 'red herring' which you are attempting to use to distract from and cover-up the real question which is: Is Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby a child of the flesh who must be cast out or is he a child of God who must inherit?

This must be very seriously aired out and determined, since he was brought forth through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex of his mother . . . when most of his followers were brought forth in a religiously acceptable marital union.

Seems that you are posturing like a lemon used car sales man, so as to deny and cover up this very important (KJV N.T.) consideration (i.e. whether he is a child of the flesh who must be cast out or a child of God who must inherit?).

This is so plain and simple. Only a seriously demented, false prophet and false spying brethren, will deny and seek to undermine this clear and literal revelation from the KJV N.T.

You are posing as a Christian. Clearly you are not even an aspiring Christian. You have denied God's righteousness and gone about making up your own righteousness.

Romans: 10 King James Version (KJV)
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

 
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Gurucam

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Friends,

The KJV N.T. confirms the following very clearly and literally:

Matthew 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called (to Christianity), but few are chosen.

Matthew 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


The above verses from the KJV N.T. confirm that, from the billion or so called to Christianity in traditional Christianity, only a few will be chosen, i.e. only a few will find the straight gate and narrow way that lead to life, everlasting.

The KJV N.T. also confirms how and why this would happen (i.e. why only a few are chosen). The very great majority of aspiring Christians will (foolishly) believe that they know scriptures and the power of God. However they will not know scriptures and the power of God and they will err and not be chosen:

Mathews: 22 KJV N.T.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.


One can be very sure that the average priest, preacher and Joe follower, in the billion strong, traditional Christianity will not know scriptures. Also they will not know the power of God. They will be consumed in err and not be chosen.

The KJV N.T. also confirms that many false prophets will cause this very great and grave failure among aspiring Christians:

Matthews: 24 KJV N.T.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.


The very great majority of priests and preachers in traditional Christianity are false prophets who came in Jesus' name and they are misguiding their unsuspecting followers. This is happening in big churches and small churches, everywhere on earth.

Therefore, I urge you to beware (very seriously) of the likes of Genuineoriginal. They are simply posturing like Christians.

They openly (any which way) deny and undermine authentic KJV N.T. revelations so as to irrationally empower those who they unwittingly or otherwise favor. They are misled unfortunate fanatic. They are not Christians. They are not about God's righteousness. They are about their own righteousness and the righteousness of Satan.

Indeed, Satan and his status quo seem to have them in very strong grip. They seem to be human parrots whose wings (and brain) have been pruned and clipped by Satan and his more senior operatives. They are 'the dead who are (spiritually) burying you' in plain sight, everyday.

This is not about 'winning' foolish or other arguments. This is about getting to truth.
 
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Gurucam

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genuineoriginal

1 John 4 King James Version (KJV)
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


The above revelation confirms that God is Love. Therefore the Spirit of God are urging of Love. This means that wheresoever Love is present, God is present and participating. Where Love is absent God is absent and Satan rules.

Fact is people are motivated either by love or carnality/material. There are just two categories of motivations. Love is motivation from God. All other motivations are from Satan.

The simple fact is, if the fornication, adultery and extramarital sex of the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, was love motivated, then God was present and Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was a child of God. And he must inherit.

On the other hand, if the fornication, adultery and extramarital sex of the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, was not love motivated, but carnally or otherwise motivated, then God was not present and Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was a child of carnality/child of the flesh. And must be cast out.

The above is a law in the Spirit of life of Christ Jesus and every aspiring Christian must have this truth and adapt it in their lives. There is no good in you denying this truth. If you deny the truth above you are simply serving Satan.

If you deny the above truth that simply makes you a false prophet who came in Jesus' name and a spying false brethren who is misleading innocent aspiring Christians into erring and death.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Acts 13: King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


Your statement, 'Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is not responsible for his mother's action' is totally irrelevant and not applicable or useful in this Christian situation.

You are simply trying to derail truth and cover-up the real issue and real important concern . . . or you are very foolish and/or totally misled.

According to the KJV N.T., at all events, if Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is a child of the flesh he must be cast out. He cannot be Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury.

It is widely accepted that Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was brought forth (born) out of his mother's fornication, adultery and extramarital sex.

According to the KJV N.T., if those acts, by his mother, were motivated by carnality then the fruit (the child) from those acts would be carnal. That is, Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby would be carnal.

Then according to the KJV N.T., He would be a child of the flesh who must have long been cast out. This means, also, that his original and continuing appointment, as Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, was corrupt.

More explanations are very necessary to bring clarity to this entire affair.
 
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Gurucam

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Mr. Donald Trump's, possible Christian relevance in the politics of the U.S.A.

Mr. Donald Trump's, possible Christian relevance in the politics of the U.S.A.

genuineoriginal and all others,

Luke: 4 KJV N.T.
5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.


Fact is God is Love:

1 John 4 King James Version (KJV)
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.


The only way to serve God is to serve Love.

To serve anything other than Love is to serve Satan/the Devil.

The sad fact is that the billion strong traditional Christian do not know the above basic Christian truth which is literally confirmed in the KJV N.T.

The billion strong traditional Christian still very erroneously and corruptly believe that seeking to uphold the law of sin and death is the path to Christianity. They are so very gravely misled. Fact is false brethren have infiltrated Christianity, as spies and they have misled the billion strong traditional Christians:

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under the law of sin and death):


Quite frankly, based on KJV N.T. revelations, I suspect that these spying false brethren are Jews and similar others, the ancestors of who sanctioned and aided the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus 2000 years ago. Since then they have been perpetuating Jesus' crucifixion (i.e. "putting more nails in his coffin") by denying and undermining Jesus' actual (spirit and Spirit based) message.

Based on KJV N.T. revelations, they are on the left side of the King (i.e. they are on the left side of the Lord Jesus). You do not wish to identify with them. They already went through the holocaust and their God seemed to have looked the other way through it all. The indication is either, their 'lord and/or God' did not lift a finger to help them or their God was not that powerful. At any event, millions were punished. I am not saying that this was good or bad or right or wrong. I seek to simply state the observation.

Seems that, even after that event, they (the Jews) still continued to deny, blaspheme and undermine their God sent messiah, the Lord Jesus. Also, it seems that they did not simply stay among themselves and deny the fullness of the Lord Jesus. They seem to have gone on to undermine, persecute and deny Jesus' spirit and Spirit based message even among aspiring Christians.

Jews (at least in the U.S.A.) seemed to be the false brethren who came as spies among unsuspecting aspiring Christians. Aspiring Christians are the billion strong traditional Christians. These Jews seemed to have come among traditional Christians (particularly in the U.S.A.) as spying false brethren, simply to return aspiring Christians to bondage under the law of sin and death.

This seemed to have been the deliberate destruction of what the founding fathers established in the U.S.A. Under the founding fathers and their ideas, the U.S.A. seemed to the promised land of Christians. Seems that Jews infiltrated the U.S.A. and crashed what the founding father established.

Simply note that difference between Christianity and the Jewish tradition:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


:idea: Christianity is anchored on the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which makes one free from the law of sin and death.
:idea: On the other hand the Jewish tradition is anchored on the law of sin and death.

:idea: These traditions are like cheese and chalk. They are in total opposition to each other.

The question is why is the law of sin and death still a part of traditional Christianity? Is this because Jews came in as spying false brethren among unsuspecting traditional Christians and return them to bondage under the law of sin and death?

At any event and at all events, clearly traditional Christians esteem the law of sin and death. Therefore they are not Christians, at all. They are the many who are called to Christianity, misled by false prophets, err and not chosen.

The question is do these unfortunate traditional Christians have some Jews to 'thank' for their sad predicament? . . . at least in the U.S.A.? And may be traditional Christians of Britain, have Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby to thank for their sad predicament? For traditional Christians in Britain also esteem the law of sin and death.

These are valid questions.

Additionally, is Mr. Donald Trump, now on the scene to remove these Jews and similar other anti-Christians, from control and dominance, in the U.S.A. and so restore Christianity to that land? . . . indeed this is not an endorsement. This is simply a question befitting the current fullness of time in which God's kingdom of heaven is descending on earth. Now all the Old are dying to give way to the New.

Also, is the recent public disclosure about Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby divinely (i.e. under Grace of God) intended to similarly undermine and dismiss Justin Welby from his post as Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury. Is this public disclosure heralding the death of the Old in Britain, to give way to the New?


We must face the fact, in a real and straightforward way. We must face the fact that: the vast majority of (supposed Christian) follower under Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby are esteeming the law of sin and death in typical traditional Christian fashion. They are traditional Christians, they are not real Christians.

They have not embrace the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which makes one free from the law of sin and death.


Therefore they are clearly not Christians. They have been misled. They therefore err and are not chosen. Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby has failed them.

Therefore, now that we are in the fullness of time, truth is surfacing in absolute clarity for all to know and judgment is at hand. It seems that time (i.e. under grace of God), is at hand, to judge and remove (if necessary) Justin Welby from his post as Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury and send him packing, at least, into private life. This is not a big deal. Humans will get an opportunity to correct their err before Jesus makes His final judgment and dispatch.

Matthews: 25 KJV N.T.
30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


Those who deny, undermine and did not practice, God's righteousness that was given for Christians and instead embrace the law of sin and death, are on the left side. They will experience a holocaust of sorts. They are the many (the very great majority) from among the billion who are called to Christianity.

On the other hand those who threw out the law of sin and death and embraced the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus (which makes one free from the law of sin and death) are on the right side. They will inherit God's kingdom of heaven on earth. They are the few from among the billion who are called to Christianity.

Do not let the likes of genuineoriginal and his anti-Christian rhetoric lead you to the left side.

. . . continued in post # 74
 
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Gurucam

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. . . cont'd from post # 73

Jews are known promoters of the law of sin and death. They do not recognize the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which makes one free from the law of sin and death. However they were and are not prepared to stay in their moorings and hold their views only among themselves.

These Jews came as false brethren and spies among unsuspecting aspiring Christians (i.e. traditional Christians) and seemed to have returned a billion strong traditional Christians to bondage under the law of sin and death.

Christians are free from any obligation of the law of sin and death:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


This action of returning or keeping aspiring Christians and Christians under the law of sin and death, was and continue to be wrong. This is a bold and totally unforgivable sin against Christianity. This is totally in opposition to the aims and teachings of the Lord Jesus. This is totally antichrist.

Christians are people under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. They are freed from the law of sin and death. Christians are not at all under the law of sin and death.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


Who but the Jews will deny aspiring Christians and Christians their God given freedom from the law of sin and death? Did you notice that a holocaust befell them? Who but the Jews can be the false spying brethren mentioned in:

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under the law of sin and death):


These erring Jews might just have another similar holocaust coming because of their continuing blasphemy, persecution, denial and undermining of Jesus' spirit and Spirit based (only) Christian ministry.

I am not recommending this. In fact justice and vengeance belong to the Lord Jesus. The above simply seems logical from past circumstances. At any event vengeance is totally determined and dispensed by the Lord Jesus:

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.


The billion strong traditional Christian are clearly the very great majority of those called to Christianity. And it is obvious that all are in some way or the other esteeming the law of sin and death. Clearly they are misled by false prophets. Therefore they do not know scriptures and the power of God. They therefore err and are not actually Christians. They are not chosen.

Romans: 10 King James Version (KJV)
3 For they (i.e. the billion strong traditional Christians) being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Mark: 12 KJV N.T.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?


Have absolutely no doubt, Christians are under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which makes one free from the law of sin and death. The law of sin and death are the ten commandments. Christians have God given freedom to transgress the ten commandments and get no sin. This is righteousness of God for Christians.

Traditional Christians have ignored this righteousness and gone about their own righteousness.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets.


Christianity is anchored on righteousness of God that is without the law. However traditional Christians are not aware of this. They therefore err and are not chosen. They are not Christians. At best the billion strong traditional Christians are simply called to be Christians but not chosen. They all fall short of the glory of God.

The billion strong traditional Christians do not know that when one is in the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus one has God given freedom to fornicate, commit adultery and have extramarital sex and not get sin but instead be totally glorified by God. They are too dense. Their hearts are waxed gross. They are lost. They are simply not given by God to know this mystery of God's kingdom of heaven.

Many tradition Christians are foolish, misled, self-righteous and arrogant like Genuineoriginal. They are simply stewing in their own foolishness.

Genuineoriginal, the above is your very sad predicament. Please desist from trying to teach and/or defend Christianity. You simply do not have the required credentials.
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Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


Genuineoriginal. you totally deny and/or failed to point out that if the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was led into her fornication, adultery and extramarital sex by love then Justin Welby is worthy to be appointed as Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury.

This is the only thing, in Christianity, to justify Justin Welby. Every thing that you advanced is absolute anti-Christian foolishness.

You foolishly believe that protecting Christianity is to prop-up Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, any which way. That is just plain Satanic.

Fact is Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is responsible for millions of traditional Christians who are very erroneously esteeming the law of sin and death, in some way or the other. This is a serious sin against Christianity. It is no good thing.

We are in the fullness of time and Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is simply being called to judgment, under grace of God.

He does not need you, with your absolutely kindergarten foolishness, to defend him. This defense require the spiritual equivalent of a 'Queen's council'. You clearly flunked out at kindergarten. You cannot help, you will simply bury Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby deeper by your live and personal demonstration of failure under typical traditional Christianity which is also promoted in his church. Humble your self.

If you had stayed quite, at worse, others can only suspect that you are foolish. However you have opened your mouth and now all doubts are removed. However this is far from your biggest problem.

Denying the KJV N.T. and Christianity is literally blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. (because Christianity is totally anchored on Spirit). The sad fact is that traditional Christians have spent their life time denying the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, in order to esteem and use the law of sin and death. This is literally blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and the only sin that is unforgivable.

There is, therefore, no mystery why many are called and few chosen.
 
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genuineoriginal

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'To be free from the law of sin and death' means to have God given freedom to transgress the law of sin and death and get no sin but instead be glorified by God.
. . .

Fact is, at all events (even in fornication, adultery and extramarital sex), the presence of love (as the motivator) is the active presence and participation of God and only fruits of God/children of God are brought forth.
You are excusing what Welby's mother did through these words, so you have nothing to hold against Welby now.

You are nothing but a hypocrite.
 

Gurucam

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You are excusing what Welby's mother did through these words, so you have nothing to hold against Welby now.

You are nothing but a hypocrite.

I simply confirm what is recorded in the KJV N.T. I cannot excuse Welby's mother. Only Jesus and God can do that. Only they would know her heart. You seem very foolish.

Matthews: 9 KJV N.T.
14 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?


You seem to be playing God by making up all kinds of anti-scripture foolishness to excuse Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby.

All we can and should do is quote the KJV N.T. You are not doing so. You are twisting things and making up your own thing.

You seem to be promoting that fornication, adultery and extramarital sex is good and O.K. for bringing forth children.

Are you saying that fornication, adultery and extramarital sex is good and Godly? Are those things sin? Yes or no?

The Lord Jesus and God is waiting to hear your reply. Please state your position clearly and do not be a false prophet and a hypocrite. Do not speak with a forked tongue, you could end up among double tongue serpents.

Re. https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=forked+tongue&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002

You seem to be fabricating all kinds of foolish justification for Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby although he was born from sin, i.e. he was born from fornication, adultery and extramarital sex. Can any good thing be brought forth from sin? What good is calling any thing sinful, if good things can come from sin?

Fact is no good child comes from plain old, fornication, adultery and extramarital sex: It is confined and demonstrated in the KJV N.T. that through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex Abraham brought forth a child of the flesh who must be cast out.

On the other hand through sex with his wife, Abraham brought forth a child of God who must inherit.

How come you are bending the rules for Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby. Fact is he was brought forth through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex (ie, through sin) therefore he must be a child of the flesh who must be cast out.

Explain why you are being a false prophet and a hypocrite?

Why did you change your mind? Why are you now excusing fornication, adultery and extramarital which brings forth only children of the flesh who must be cast out?

If, according to the KJV N.T, Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is a child of the flesh who must be cast out then he is a child of God who must be cast out . . . and so be it.

This means that he should have never been Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury . . . a big mistake was made. If this is exposed now, it must be corrected.

Why do you deny all good things from the KJV N.T. simply to 'any which way' prop-up Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby? Are you prepared to go to hell for what you are doing?

If perchance it surfaces that a bad man or the wrong person, was in-charge of a church, why would you want to perpetuate sin?

Why would you deny it when God is showing us our mistake or sins and truth, now, in the fullness of time.
 
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Gurucam

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genuineoriginal

The Lord Jesus, God and some of us want to know if you believe that fornication, adultery and extramarital sex are things of the flesh and sinful? Are fornication, adultery and extramarital sex always things of the flesh and sinful?

If those are things of the flesh and sinful, at all times, then Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, can be no good thing, because he was brought forth by fornication, adultery and extramarital sex (i.e. things of the flesh) . . . and nothing good comes from flesh.


Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
17 Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. (if the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is corrupt then Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is corrupt . . . no Maths involve)

Galatians: 6 KJV N.T.
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


Only a false prophet will claim that fornication, adultery and extramarital sex is of the flesh and sin full and on the other hand claim that one can sow fornication, adultery and extramarital sex and reap a good child.

All your life you promote and teach that fornication, adultery and extramarital sex is always totally wrong and now that it is known that Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was brought forth by fornication, adultery and extramarital sex you are attempting a Satanic cover-up?

Fornication, adultery and extramarital sex is not only about the mother and father, it is also about the son who was brought forth out of fornication, adultery and extramarital sex.

Look at Abraham's son who was brought forth out of fornication, adultery and extramarital sex. He was a child of the flesh and scriptures says that he must be cast out. How is Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby different?

The above is the pure Christian truth. On the other hand, you are simply making up your own anti-Christian thing and claiming that it is Christian.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman (his married wife) was by promise (a child of God).
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.


Look at your self. You are seriously hypocritical. Traditional Christians tend to be serious 'holier than thou' hypocrites. You are a serious practitioner.

The KJV N.T. confirms very clearly that Abraham had a son who was brought forth through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex and he was a child of the flesh who must be cast out.

It is widely accepted and known that Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby was brought forth through fornication, adultery and extramarital sex. You have not explained how and why is Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby different from Abraham's son who was brought forth the same way and must be cast out.

This is no joking matter. You seem to be an evil person . . . simply posturing as descent.

I have not justified Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby or his mother. I am not given by God to do or not do so. I simply point out truth according to literal revelations from the KJV N.T.
 
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Gurucam

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Settling the issue of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby's corruption.

Settling the issue of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby's corruption.

Genuineoriginal,

For you it rests with your belief.


Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
17 Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit.


The above KJV N.T. revelation confirms that if the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is corrupt then Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is corrupt . . . no Maths involve

If you hold the view that fornication, adultery and extramarital sex is corrupt then the mother of Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is corrupt and Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby is also corrupt . . . and this is the total end of the discussion for you.

Your statement that he cannot be held responsible for his mother's action is mute, i.e. irrelevant. It is a 'red herring'. You are either posturing like a lemon used car sales man (to sell your lemon idea) or you are more foolish than that.
 

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Gurucam,

You are the guy who claims children of God can only come from the union of two believers.

False.

1Co 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
 

Gurucam

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Gurucam,

You are the guy who claims children of God can only come from the union of two believers.

I never said any such thing. I did not speak of 'believer'. I did not quote that book or those verses.

I quoted the following which is plainly, pointedly and directly about a child born from fornication, adultery and extramarital sex (i.e. like Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby):

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman (his married wife) was by promise (a child of God).
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.


You cannot get it more plainly, pointedly and directly than the above covenant.

The above revelation is directly and pointedly related to Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby and the fornication, adulterous and extramarital manner of his birth and scriptures says that he must be cast out.

Fornication, adultery and extramarital sex is not only about the mother and father, it is also about the son who was brought forth out of fornication, adultery and extramarital sex.

The offspring brought forth from fornication, adultery and extra marital sex is a child of the flesh and he or she must be cast out.

This is a covenant. It relates to you guys and also to Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, because you guys esteem, promote, use and teach, the law of sin and death and therefore, you guys are under the law of sin and death.

Look at Abraham's son who was brought forth out of fornication, adultery and extramarital sex. He was a child of the flesh and scriptures says that he must be cast out. How is Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby different?

Abraham other son was with his married wife. He was a child of God and scriptures says that only the child of God must inherit. The child of the flesh must be cast out.

This is allegory. It is a covenant. It must be applied to all who are brought forth by fornication, adultery and extramarital sex, like Abraham son. It must also be applied to Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby. He must all be cast out.

It seems to be total corruption and anti-Christian to appoint Justin Welby, as Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, instead of casting him out.

Don't you realize that this is why many (a billion) are called to Christianity and the very great majority are misled and therefore err and are not chosen? It is most likely because false prophets (i.e. wrong people possibly like Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby) hold leadership positions in traditional Christianity and they are misleading their charges.

The verse which you are trying to sneak in is about something unrelated.
 
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