Yes Doser
Anybody else sick of the supposed race issue?
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Yes Doser
What country do you live in?
lain: Or did you move into a new neighborhood? I think it's mostly a problem of perspective. There are legitimate complaints tied to race, objectively demonstrable ones...and there's the Oscars. Being able to distinguish between the two is essential.
One concern I have these days is that liberals, who are clearly in ascension in terms of dominating the cultural landscape, will forget one of their traditional strengths, honoring diversity, and instead replace the more monolithic judgments of the right with their own set of sacred cows...in fact, if you saw kmo's bit on what's happening in some liberal bastions that appears to be entirely the case.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
remember, liberalism is a mental disorder
http://www.libertymind.com/
in their insanity, they think they're creating a better world
it's the only way to explain the decision of otherwise rational people to vote for the likes of obama and clinton
http://www.libertymind.com/
in their insanity, they think they're creating a better world
it's the only way to explain the decision of otherwise rational people to vote for the likes of obama and clinton
She also didn't name a specific instance. I'm left to infer that she thinks too many thing are being ascribed to racism in general.
If you she doesn't like the broad brush, she shouldn't use it. How is it that the Oscars had no non-white nominees? Well, it's part of a larger pattern that's gone on for as long as Hollywood has made films. But it's hard to prove that any given case is a result of racism. That's the problem with prejudice. You seldom know for sure that it's happening in an individual interaction.
Take the old "literacy tests" in the Deep South to register to vote. The laws mandating them were written in a racially-neutral way. But the officials charged with giving the tests were given latitude to administer tests as selectively as they wanted, the result of which was the maintenance of the status quo for generations. Was it racism? Of course. But in any given case, it would have been nearly impossible to prove.
I'm all for reworking the conversation. Little progress has been made in a few decades. But I also don't know what that new conversation that would be more fruitful would look like. It's a lot harder to address a form of racism that has learned that it shouldn't be overtly seen, although in the last year or so, it seems like it's coming back out of the shadows a little bit. If anything, that should demonstrate how resilient it is.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
That's one explanation. It's a little hard to believe, having seen Straight Outta Compton, but, it's one thing you can cling to.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
i haven't seen straight outta compton (or many of the other films under consideration), so i really couldn't say
regardless, it is the most obvious explanation
same reason there weren't any eskimos or tajikis nominated (i'm assuming there weren't any eskimos or tajikis nominated - or samoans or maoris, for that matter :idunno: )
how come you're only whining about the poor poor blacks who were "excluded"?
Not surprising. Whatever you think of n.W.a., it was a good, well-acted, well done film, telling an important and timely story.
Have you ever been to LA? There are a fair number of black people. There are a lot of Hispanics, who are actually the majority in the state.
Because their numbers are great enough that it's hard to believe that there just wasn't a single film that was worthy.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
i believe quite a few of those get made each year
rex said:
and all of them are making movies?
rex said:
numbers of black or hispanic filmmakers or actors or whatever?
rex said:
name a dozen that you think were worthy
ClimateSanity
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I don't see many movies but here is a test. Name the best performance of a black actor and the film it was in. Name the worst performance of a oscar winner who was white. Now, do a non biased assessment of both performances and tell me if you can see a legitimate reason for exclusive the black actors performance.
ClimateSanity
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Who?????
Googled it. Yeah, I know him. Were there any white oscar winners who did worse than him in your view?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Liberalism: the art of mitigating the bad, protesting the good, and enabling tyranny.
For liberation.
ClimateSanity
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Read wiki on the film. A gruesome, violent and twisted crime film. Reminds me of Quinton Tarantino.
I don't think there's much of an argument that the Oscars issue was racist. Symptomatic of a largely skewed voting pool, sure, but racist? The same group gave an Oscar to "It's Hard Out There For a Pimp"...they shouldn't have, but they did. Anyway, they're even older now and that has a way of shrinking interests. Because all sorts of minorities have won in recent memory. Now Creed was good enough to be nominated, though I think being of the Rocky franchise hurt that chance. They gave the nod to Stallone instead, though the invite stopped short of a statue. Idris? An unlikable turn in a movie released on Netflix. And, honestly, the nominees were good else. I don't agree with it, but I can't say it's racist...unless you think old white men being disinterested in hip-hop is racist, by way of illustration.
So because you thought this was a good flick that should speak for us all? I can say after seeing the trailer and knowing that I would have to endure the rap crap that passes for music I knew I wasn't interested. I would say look at the stats, "The Revenant" which had best actor sold $300 million in tickets where "Straight Outta of Compton" only sold $60.2 Million, I think that shows why right there but, I guess the Oscar should have been awarded because of race instead of merit...Lame!
Tar Babies
I've noticed that liberals are silent about Chris Rock using Asian children as fodder for a stereotypical joke when he was MC at the 2016 Oscars.
