Answering old threads thread

Idolater

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Don't discount the (bio)chemical effect of pornography and self-gratification.
Yep that's why I called them "hard drugs" by analogy. Hard drugs interfere in the dopamine reward system. So does pornography and self-gratification.
And I'm sure that you appreciate this, others do here as well - we're in the middle of an unprecedented experiment in which generations of kids are being raised with a universe of pornography available at the swipe of a finger.
I read stories about men in their 30s who have been pornography and self-gratification addicts since they were 11 or 12. It's not uncommon.
 

ok doser

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Yep that's why I called them "hard drugs" by analogy. Hard drugs interfere in the dopamine reward system. So does pornography and self-gratification.

I read stories about men in their 30s who have been pornography and self-gratification addicts since they were 11 or 12. It's not uncommon.
I haven't seen any studies yet and I don't operate in that environment anymore but I'd be very curious to investigate changes in parental bonding related to pornography use. In other words, if you're triggering your dopamine system everyday, does it blunt its effectiveness in relational formation? Are we raising a generation of boys and girls who will be more receptive to the unstated goal of the extreme left of societally acceptable infanticide and pedophilia?
 

Tambora

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This is perhaps the most foolishly evil position I've ever seen you take.
Don't know if it's "evil" or just a misunderstanding.
He seems to be implying that unless BOTH consent to not having sex at any time then the one that wants to refrain must give in to the other.
But that's not even practical.
Should a man give in and leave work every time his wife is in the mood for sex?
 

glorydaz

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Can you find one of those places where rape is condemned? Do any of those speak of husband and wife as the participants?

How would you know what a "grip" looks like? Your own personal law code? You have no critiqueable or even accessible source of ethics, yet you want to impose that on everybody else.
When he sees so called believers advocating raping their wives, why would he be inclined to read the same book these believers profess to follow? Clearly, Artie has a better "grip" on this topic than you do, Derf.
 

glorydaz

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Why would a husband ever need to resort to forced sex?

Apparently, when that husband had failed to convince his wife and he'd forgotten how to masturbate, he'd be forced to force his wife. Hold her down and ignore her cries. After all, he'd tell her...."You claim to be a Christian, prove it."

I'm wondering what world you folks live in.....expecting a perfect marriage from all who call themselves Christian. :eek:

In a "Christian marriage" there are two people who fail every single day. Why pretend otherwise?

That Christian man may have a few beers too many, and his wife may be sickened by his smell and his actions.....refuse him sex, and then be blamed? What a crock.
 

Derf

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Apparently, when that husband had failed to convince his wife and he'd forgotten how to masturbate, he'd be forced to force his wife. Hold her down and ignore her cries. After all, he'd tell her...."You claim to be a Christian, prove it."

I'm wondering what world you folks live in.....expecting a perfect marriage from all who call themselves Christian. :eek:

In a "Christian marriage" there are two people who fail every single day. Why pretend otherwise?

That Christian man may have a few beers too many, and his wife may be sickened by his smell and his actions.....refuse him sex, and then be blamed? What a crock.
I asked a question, and that equates to advocacy?
 

Derf

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What in the hell happened here? You mean to tell me that calling Derf a "dingbat" is a banning offense?

That's the biggest CROCK I've ever heard of.

Down right retarded even.

This is total CRAP and unworthy of anything but a LOUD BOO HISS
Sounds like you are advocating calling me a dingbat. :)
 

glorydaz

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I asked a question, and that equates to advocacy?
I've been reading everything you've said, Derf. I'm basing my comment on all you've said on this stupid subject....that no believer would ever in a million years try to justify.

Your crap ended up getting Artie banned for NO REASON. NO REASON WHATSOEVER.

I'd like to call you a dingbat, but I daren't. Oh dear. I daren't do any such thing. I might get my butt booted to the curb.
Although what kind of lost that would be is beyond me at the moment.
 

Rusha

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I've been reading everything you've said, Derf. I'm basing my comment on all you've said on this stupid subject....that no believer would ever in a million years try to justify.

Your crap ended up getting Artie banned for NO REASON. NO REASON WHATSOEVER.

I'd like to call you a dingbat, but I daren't. Oh dear. I daren't do any such thing. I might get my butt booted to the curb.
Although what kind of lost that would be is beyond me at the moment.

You are being too kind. Dingbat doesn’t begin to describe the vileness of an individual who claims a *male* (not man) has the right to PHYSICALLY FORCE sex on his wife … OR those who high five such an advocate for marital rape.
 
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