SaulToPaul 2
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Who he was SENT TO, and who could also COME TO HIM, are two different things.
It is not difficult to understand.
All the apostles of Christ preached the grace message
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Who he was SENT TO, and who could also COME TO HIM, are two different things.
It is not difficult to understand.
Epoisses
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He was sent to the Israel of God who have the faith of Abraham.
Epoisses
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The NT is all about the church in case you missed that! Does anyone believe in the church anymore?
SaulToPaul 2
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I didn't, but Paul said, "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them and upon the Israel of God."
The term "Israel" represents God's chosen people. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
Oh, well, the beat goes on.
"Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God." (Paul)
I think we can rule out Muslim countries as being the Israel of God and maybe even North Korea.
Ben Masada
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Well, true that the Gentiles knew nothing of God's salvation until Paul brought that info to them because, according to Matthew 10:5,6, Jesus' himself had forbidden his disciples to take the gospel of salvation to the Gentiles. However, that info was not given to Paul by Jesus. Jesus was already dead when Paul founded the Christian church. (Acts 11:26)
Looks as if Mathematics is not your strong point.
Unfortunately for you, you lack the ability to "Rightly Divide" the written word of God.
Epoisses
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Poor Grosbo has never read the bible so all he can do is flail about and parrot his indoctrination.
The church of today is fallen so if you belong to it then you are fallen as well. Not everyone who says Lord, lord will enter the kingdom of heaven but only those who love the gospel more than life itself.
Interplanner
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No, the entire NT is not about their relationship. It is about God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself. There was some business to finish up with Israel, but as action goes, much more is about the mission to the nations.
Ben Masada
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Jesus died neither for the lost sheep of Israel nor for all mankind. He couldn't contradict his own gospel that says, "No one can die for the sins of another." (Ezekiel 18:3) He died for his transgression act of insurrection against Rome by allowing his own disciples to acclaim him king of the Jews in a Roman province which was Jerusalem at the time. Hence, his verdict INRI commanded by Pilate to be nailed on the top of his cross. (Luke 19:37-40)Now, I hope, time is ripe to stop blaming the Jews with the death of Jesus.
Ben Masada
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To believe in what you say above, you must believe in the contradictions of the NT. Why? Because, that dialogue with the Samaritan woman could have never happened for two reasons: First, because Jesus did not like Gentiles, especially Samaritans. When he forbade his disciples to take the gospel of salvation unto the Gentiles, he added, "Don't even enter a Samaritan town." (Mat. 10:5,6) How could he say something like that and, immediately as his disciples went away, he went up to the Well of Jacob to have a talk with a Samaritan woman? It sounds like hypocrisy. The second reason is that the verbiage was too early, I mean, from the gospel of Paul when this had not founded his church yet. (Acts 11:26)
Epoisses
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Jesus was the 2nd Adam or the savior of the world according to Romans 5. That's a NT book you may not be familiar with.
marhig
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Jesus didn't like the gentiles? Your wrong there. He came as a light to the gentiles
Luke 2
And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said,
Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;
A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel
Jesus went the way of the Samaritans because God wanted him there. He didn't deceive his deciples, he wasn't a hypocrite, they knew he was there, they had gone to buy meat and when they returned they saw him talking to the Samaritan women. Jesus said that he must go through Samaria. And it was a good job he went, because after preaching the gospel, not only did the woman believe, but so did the men of the city believe that Jesus is the Christ the son of the living God.
And Jesus didn't just tell his deciples to preach to the Jews. But to go out into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature!
Epoisses
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Jesus was the 2nd Adam so he died for the whole world. Even the Samaritans figured that out but apparently you haven't.
So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days. And many more believed because of his own word; And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world. John 4:40-42
What a moron you are...
You have the Samaritans believing that He died for them way before He even died.
Sheesh are you stupid...
Epoisses
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You don't believe any verse of scripture do you?
How moronic. Go back to perverting Romans at least that provides some amusement for me.
That is the only reason I come here by the way. To laugh at how stupid D'ists are.
Interplanner
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"he was the Christ, the savior of the world." It is possible that this is 'land' (as in what would happen to the country shortly) but they are still the Samaritans, aren't they?
Ben Masada
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What a messy this NT of yours! While the guy who wrote the gospel of John presents Jesus holding a dialog with a Samaritan woman, the guy who wrote the gospel of Matthew reports Jesus forbidding his disciples to spread the gospel of salvation among the Gentiles, especially the Samaritans. (Mat. 10:5,6) Christians can't see these gaps in the gospel of Paul because he wanted them to walk by faith and not by sight. (II Cor. 5:7)