musterion
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Out of the handful of self described ex-disps on TOL, not one of them demonstrates enough basic knowledge of even nominal d'ism to convince me they're telling the truth.
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Out of the handful of self described ex-disps on TOL, not one of them demonstrates enough basic knowledge of even nominal d'ism to convince me they're telling the truth.
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whitestone
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lol,there is creek to hop across between disp.and preterit's that is so wide that it's curious to see anyone at all saying they are "EX-". They are 180deg. from each other in their approach to eschatology.
As well as it is easy to see what someone believes by their words(our keyboard's in this case)to be "EX-" is an admission that they did not know,or do not know. At least though it indicates that they are still contemplating it(hopping back and forth)and gives a clue as to how far they are evolved.
I notice this one is a little farther evolved than the other preterits, he realizes to make notes and post them around the computer and organize himself. They all do though do the same things the more I watch,they begin bold,they argue it and then they flood the forums with thread after thread as if in a panic trying to disprove it. It's not really a bad thing that they do it other than that we are the ones who face the assault,bare it.
Back up for a moment and set the tool of judgement in front of you,the mirror, and gaze over your shoulder at us. Ask yourself who spends so much time trying to disprove an faith and why and then to "whom". That is if you try to jump across the creek and there is too much weight in your pockets the other bank may be too far.
But who,but who,who is it that I post all these threads to,who am I trying to convince,ask yourself who,is it you? Is it that the "Ex-" is on an mission to prove that the bank they are standing on is the correct bank and that they need to "prove it to their own self"? It is though so that this one is farther evolved than the other preterits...
As well as it is easy to see what someone believes by their words(our keyboard's in this case)to be "EX-" is an admission that they did not know,or do not know. At least though it indicates that they are still contemplating it(hopping back and forth)and gives a clue as to how far they are evolved.
I notice this one is a little farther evolved than the other preterits, he realizes to make notes and post them around the computer and organize himself. They all do though do the same things the more I watch,they begin bold,they argue it and then they flood the forums with thread after thread as if in a panic trying to disprove it. It's not really a bad thing that they do it other than that we are the ones who face the assault,bare it.
Back up for a moment and set the tool of judgement in front of you,the mirror, and gaze over your shoulder at us. Ask yourself who spends so much time trying to disprove an faith and why and then to "whom". That is if you try to jump across the creek and there is too much weight in your pockets the other bank may be too far.
But who,but who,who is it that I post all these threads to,who am I trying to convince,ask yourself who,is it you? Is it that the "Ex-" is on an mission to prove that the bank they are standing on is the correct bank and that they need to "prove it to their own self"? It is though so that this one is farther evolved than the other preterits...
LOL
Looks like mysteryboy still thinks Luke 19:44 wasn't fulfilled in 70AD.
Try reading the previous verse.
(Luke 19:43) The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side.
In 70AD the Romans encircled Jerusalem, built embankments, and laid siege to the city.
However, you can't accept these historical facts because these historical facts destroy your "prophetic clock" being stopped somewhere in Mid-Acts.
SaulToPaul 2
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Post#13 completely discombobulates your post, in embarrassing fashion.
SaulToPaul 2
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Certainly the Nangster would fall into that category.
Interplanner
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musterion
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Now read the following verse. He said NOT ONE STONE would be left standing upon another in all of Jerusalem. Your apostle Josephus proves the prediction did not come to pass in 70.
Do you even stop and listen how ridiculous your theory is?
According to you, everything that happened in 70AD was really, really, really close to what was prophesied, but there were still a few stones left standing upon another.
Also, according to you, a future temple and city would have to be built out of stones, then an army would have to come, surround this future temple and city, build embankments around this future temple and city, and then destroy this future temple and city with not one stone left standing upon another.
And if that's not ridiculous enough, the people killed in this future temple and city of yours would be killed because of the Jews who rejected Jesus in the first century.
Your theory is a mess.
(Luke 19:44) ..They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”
Jesus wasn't referring to people 2,000+ years into the future. He was referring to the Jews who did not recognize the time of God's coming to them.
Once again, the mysteryboy can't handle history or the truth.
Everything Christ Jesus said that would happen to the Jews, Jerusalem, and the temple, did in fact happen from 66AD - 70AD.
Because mysteryboy has chosen to follow the false teachings of men, mysteryboy has to deny history, otherwise his Mid-Acts-Dispensationalism falls apart.
Everything Christ Jesus said that would happen to the Jews, Jerusalem, and the temple, did in fact happen from 66AD - 70AD.
Because mysteryboy has chosen to follow the false teachings of men, mysteryboy has to deny history, otherwise his Mid-Acts-Dispensationalism falls apart.
Your preterism falls apart when it is obvious that the end has not come - No more tears hasn't happened yet, no more death hasn't either. You rely on Josephus? What a farce !!
Interplanner
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If that is the definition of preterism (that the end has come), I'm not. I do believe it was slated for 'right after' the DofJ, but delayed.
Why was it delayed and what is required before it happens?
Interplanner
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2 Peter 3 is why it was delayed.
There will be a general harrassment of believers all over the world, and then the Lord will slay in a swift transformation to the bliss of the NHNE, Rev 20. Let's support each other.
There will be a general harrassment of believers all over the world, and then the Lord will slay in a swift transformation to the bliss of the NHNE, Rev 20. Let's support each other.
2 Peter 3:13 KJV - 2 Peter 3:15 KJV - 2 Peter 3:16 KJV -
Interplanner
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Yep, there are other indicators too, like 'only the Father knows in Mt24B (after v29)'
Jude 1:18-19 proves your alleged delay in 2 Peter 3 wrong.
(Jude 1:18-19) They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.
Jude quoted Peter's prophecy about the last times, and shows that the last times were during the lifetime of Jude, not the yet future.
(2 Peter 3:3) Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.
As per usual, you are way off base. Wrong again
That's a reference to the Feast of Trumpets.
No one ever knew exactly the day or hour the Feast of Trumpets would begin.
HINT: The Feast of Trumpets was the only one of the seven feasts to take place on a new moon. All the other feasts took place on a full moon.