I can't see where you would.
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The problem here is with the hypocrisy of taking a "pro-life" position on the matter. Rather to be more accurate you should rename your cause anti-choice or just anti-abortion.
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I can't see where you would.
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The problem here is with the hypocrisy of taking a "pro-life" position on the matter. Rather to be more accurate you should rename your cause anti-choice or just anti-abortion.
Ok, good.
Lon
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:yawn: Or it isn't as 'pretty' as you wanted
lain: How shallow are you?Yes, hypocrisy, and it is you. By your insane logic, you can go ahead and club that child to death. Why? What changed? Absolutely nothing. One is just a couple of months earlier and 'sanctioned' by the law. You go ahead and live with your perverted double-standard and shallow dredges of human morality.
Oh, I'll support you in prison, if we ever overturn insanity. Until then? You bet, I demand you take care of your child. If my taxes are enough, you may get some help but have no right to it. I certainly do demand you take care of your own consequences. Driving without insurance? Your fault. Sorry it is beyond your ability to pay. Kid you cannot take care of? Your fault (should be a joy, but go figure liberals are this poor of people of character on the earth).
You don't have a right to drive. When you are on the road, I expect you to have insurance and I expect you to pay for it. Yep, demand AND no help. That's how we roll.
Sorry to jump in, this was just too insane to let go. Your ethics and logic are 'entitlement' if I make you do anything you don't want to do. Too bad. Stay off my lawn. Drive on the right side of the road. And take care of a human that you dumbly or semi-purposefully brought into this world without killing it AND out of your own pocket, just as any other responsibility or fine AND just as the rest of us, more responsible adults do.
If you want to be irresponsible and act like a child, have yourself neutered.
Nope, you are just part of the 'entitlement' generation. I will support you when you go to prison if you cannot follow the law. I have no responsibility to pay for your automobile insurance and have no problem making you pay for it out of your own pocket. Yeah, I'm a 'hypocrite' that way, to demand you take responsibility for your own actions. Driving is a privilege, not a right. You will pay for that privilege or not have it long.
Not any more than I should pay for your child's meal. You are responsible. "But what if I don't want to...." Too bad. "Hypocrite!" Uhm, no. Nice try Mr. and Mrs. 'entitlement.' Take care of what is yours! And try not to kill it, break it, or in any other way inconvenience them or your neighbor. It is expected of you, as much as you'd 'like' to try and turn that around, by some bizarre thinking and twisting of your entitlement mind.
Until law forces the point, you can kill, murder, and maim the helpless to your heart's wicked ends. When/if it passes, you will be forced to care for your poor decisions on your own, just as every other thing you are responsible for in life.
Disagree. There is no sense I have to provide for the needs of a child not my own, to be pro-life. Mandating you cannot kill OR neglect your child does not mean I need to become the provider, then for that child. Rather, all I need to do is insist that the one responsible, take care of their responsibilities. That is why parents go to jail and kids are taken away (and still would be if the law hadn't provided a convenient 'out'). I simply demand, by law, that the parent of that child take care of it, or give it to one who will. I don't have to be the one who adopts, just one more voice that assures that the child is cared for. IOW, I can mandate a law AND make you pay for that which is your own. In NO way does that make me less pro-life. I don't have to cave to socialist demands and it isn't having my cake and eating it too. You just have a deep-set and irrational entitlement mindset.
glassjester
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I am very much anti-abortion. But anti-abortion is just one form of illicit killing that I oppose.
I also oppose suicide, euthanasia, and murder. I am pro-life.
What does it matter....it simply does.
So, you're simply a passive, idealistic "pro-lifer". Seems you're defining our 'shallow' objection for us.
glassjester
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Can't come up with even one example of how an abortion might save a woman's life?
glassjester
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Nope - I stand by my ideals. I spend every day not killing people.
glassjester
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Quip - you still haven't given an example of an immoral abortion.
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No need. You still evading or making the argument that medical intervening abortions are not necessary?
I will..as soon as you justify yours.
Eagles Wings
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Exactly the way I thought you'd play that. I can see the smirk on your face and it is one of millions who think as you do.
I pray, Thee, Lord, come quickly!
Lon
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:think: Are you one to talk? Is ANYONE alive today because you exist on the planet? For some reason, without even knowing the answer another would give, you have never answered this question. Your accusation is a convenience, Quip. And not a very good one. This particular, you should REALLY rethink. I can tell you there are people on the planet, who are alive, because I am here. There is more than one, but if there was only 1, am I still not prolife??? What is the defining mark? When is enough 'enough?' :think:
glassjester
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What's the medical reason for it? Surely you must be aware of at least one example.
glassjester
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I didn't have an example. You asked me for a moral abortion, I said I couldn't think of one. And in the spirit of fairness, I asked you first.
And I proceeded to give you (a seemingly) obvious moral example....which you've neither admitted to as being a moral exception nor gave argument to it remaining immoral.
Pick one and run with it!