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may you provide evidence that all trinity believers are commiting to a bad act of judging a person?
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What are commoners?
This is so typical of those who do not understand the teaching of original sin, ie., the Fall of Man, which is critical in understanding God's grace in Christ.
I've never heard such good news as that in church, listening to a Reformed pastor tell of the Covenant faithfulness of a loving, Heavenly Father.
My comments are general observation.
If you don't believe in the trinity you are a cult. This the premise of your faith and core belief.
I am not arguing. I am only making statements.
So you disregard Jesus' teaching or commands?
Jesus says to be faithful to Him until end. Why do you disregard?
It is clear by your comment that Jesus is not your Lord.
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So Jesus fails people
That's your god- a god that fails.
Jesus died for the sins of the world, you mo-ron! He didn't die for one person and not the other you country club bigot and ignorant unbeliever!!!
No...should be clear that not all humans follow Jesus and error on their part can be understood. From here, we may help others refrain from such errors.
Some may not be helped. I think thats psychology.
Since I work backwards.
1. No. Basis of my faith is 10 commandments plus Jesus. or maybe other way around.
Telling another person what they think is a fallacy at that.
Instead I ... me... I use english definition of the term cult to define small groups of common peoples
2. The thing with general observation is that it is often bias and doesnt consider more than what is observed or seen.
The word general is synomanis with average though. And your comment still suggested ALL. seems like this is a restatement but Ill repeat to say in this situation...we are unable to say ALL who believe in Trinity think that non trinity believers are unsaved.
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You confuse arguing to mean vitriolic and often unhinged opinion. On that point, no one will disagree.
More properly, to argue is to give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view. Thus, any and all statements made about Scripture, doctrine, etc., are arguments for one's position, else the statement would never have been made. Each time someone says, "I don't follow man made doctrine" or "I don't argue about doctrine" they have in fact stated a man-made doctrinal argument. Their own statements refute that which they just claimed.
Each time someone states "I don't read commentaries, only the Bible" and if they truly believed this, they should never say anything other than to quote Scripture...period. Yet as surely as they accompany their quoted Scripture with some words expressing or implying opinion, or even "I believe what Jesus said in this passage..." they have begun crafting their very own commentary. One should very well ask, Why then should we even be paying attention to you if you don't read commentaries, only the Bible? Have you not just formed a commentary by your own words? Nonsense soon abounds.
Some folks need to think more and speak less when they are regularly found to be making these sort of self-righteous statements.
We cannot have a relationship with another without knowing the intimacies which make up that person, that is their convictions, likes, dislikes, etc. I should not need to point out that Our Lord certainly was concerned with and argued doctrine.
Mat 7:28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
Mat 22:33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.
Mar 1:22 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.
Mar 1:27 And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him.
Mar 4:1 And he began again to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; and the whole multitude was by the sea on the land.
Mar 4:2 And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,
Mar 11:18 And the scribes and chief priests heard it, and sought how they might destroy him: for they feared him, because all the people was astonished at his doctrine
Mar 12:38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
Luk 4:32 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.
Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Joh 18:19 The high priest then asked Jesus of his disciples, and of his doctrine.
So rather than hiding behind pieties exclaiming, "Just Me and My Bible!", we should not be unwilling to admit that we are all standing upon the shoulders of those who have come before us. Discussion and reasoned argumentation about what Scripture teaches is but one way how one grows in their walk of faith and draws closer to the Lord. It is by these things that the truth is made plain and the falsities identified (1 Cor. 11:19).
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If I am not mistaken, but there are points in the bible that support or promote inner-discussion, peaceful discussion on multiple points, etc?
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Ninth Commandment Guides All Manner of Discourse
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They are nicely summed up by the teachings of the ninth commandment:
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Ninth Commandment Guides All Manner of Discourse
Indeed there are.
They are nicely summed up by the teachings of the ninth commandment:
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So Jesus fails people
That's your god- a god that fails.
No, people fail God.
But you believe the Crucifixion wasn't sufficient for the world. That's the problem with you anti-Calvinists, you think that what God ordains can just be nullified and rejected.
The atonement saves everyone it is meant to save. That is God's imputation to the world, which man cannot change or dictate.
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I'm about the furthest thing from a country club member as they come
If you are not willing to change your dogma, it is only argueing and meaningless.
What I see in Christian debate or argueing is trying to silence your opponents. Often times, it is deceitful.
You see, this comment is civil yet I see deceitfulness because you are trying to focus away or hide the point I am making.
I focus on what Jesus' says.
You see, we will get in agreement since we are not in the same boat.
You base your faith mainly according to what your doctrine teaches.
Your augments are civil yet you are hiding the fact that you focus away Jesus' word. And I focus back to Jesus' word when you use this tactic.
That's why you don't like and admit. It is clear to me that your focus is always about what Calvin teaches.
It is deceitful if you claim to be a Christian. You can be deceitful with civil manner.
Your faith is basically the same as MADists, you both don't focus on what Jesus says or practiced.