501c3 at risk due to opposition to sodomite ceremonies

musterion

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We were told it couldn't happen but it was already on the table...
But back in April, when the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case, Solicitor General Donald Verrilli revealed that the implications of the court’s ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges extend far beyond the narrow issue of marriage licenses.

In a brief back and forth about IRS regulations, Justice Samuel Alito asked Solicitor General Verrilli whether religious institutions — including schools — that maintain the traditional definition of marriage would lose their tax-exempt status should the court strike down state laws defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman.

The solicitor general responded: “It’s certainly going to be an issue. I don’t deny that. I don’t deny that, Justice Alito. It is, it is going to be an issue.”

This was a chilling moment, but not totally unexpected. For years we’ve seen warnings that, for some activists, the objective is not just legal recognition of same-sex unions, but government coercion of individuals and institutions to affirm — and even participate in — such unions, regardless of good-faith religious objections.
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http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/0...religious-institution-tax-exemptions-at-risk/



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“Aside from undermining the political processes that protect our liberty, the majority’s decision threatens the religious liberty our nation has long sought to protect,” he stated. “It makes only a weak gesture toward religious liberty in a single paragraph. And even that gesture indicates a misunderstanding of religious liberty in our nation’s tradition.”
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Justice Thomas, dissenting
 
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Stories about preachers being "forced " to perform same sex weddings an urban legend . There's so much hysterical fear mongering circulating about the supposed "disastrous " effect of SSM on religious freedom .
If you don't like gay marriage , don't marry someone of the same sex . Nobody is forcing you to do this . And the notion that the gay rights movement is part of some sinister commie plot to "undermine " morality in America and weaken it to the point where the commies will easily be able to take us over is beyond ludicrous .
The notion that same sex marriage is a "threat " to the religious freedom of Christians and will lead toward massive"persecution " of them by our supposedly "communist " Obama adm9inistration and also part of a sinister "sodomite " plot is absolute poppycock .
When blacks and women were granted the right to vote , did this interfere with the voting rights of white males ? Objections to SSM are just as ridiculous .
 
musterion

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Everything is happening exactly as foretold. Read 1 and 2 Timothy as a reminder of this, then read Titus 2:11-15 to see how the believer is supposed to respond to this present age.
 
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Angel4Truth said:
Idaho city’s ordinance tells pastors to marry gays or go to jail

And that was in 2014, the gays have already been testing those waters and there will be no stopping them now. They dont want equality, they want to force those who disagree to cater to them.

Facists.
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And already, more trouble is afoot: A gay couple contacted ABC News to let them know a Texas venue was refusing to host their wedding, on religious grounds:

So the woman says "no" on the grounds of her Christian beliefs,
and instead of seeking another place, they call ABC News? :think:

El Paso venue won't allow same-sex marriage ceremonies

EL PASO, Texas -
A gay El Paso couple contacted ABC-7 to report an Upper Valley wedding venue that won't let them get married there.

The owner of Grace Gardens says she is exercising her religious freedom in denying same-sex marriages.

http://www.kvia.com/news/el-paso-venue-wont-allow-samesex-marriage-ceremonies/33840456
 
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Matthew 17: 24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?

25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.


Read this as many times as is necessary to finally hear it and then get back to me about your favorite "church's" 501(c)3.
 
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musterion said:
Everything is happening exactly as foretold. Read 1 and 2 Timothy as a reminder of this, then read Titus 2:11-15 to see how the believer is supposed to respond to this present age.
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How was the believer supposed to respond to times gone back? Do you honestly think things are worse now than the days when women and children could be molested, abused and raped behind closed doors and had no recourse for help? When blacks were slaves and afterwards still treat like inferior human beings?

Was that the "Golden age" or something?

If some of you lot weren't so hung up on homosexuality you might actually see how society has actually improved but no...

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Churches should never have taken advantage of this tax break in the first place.

They also should be paying property taxes... it makes no sense that they tend to have some of the best locations all over the country and yet pay no taxes to support the roads and schools.. etc.
 
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Good. No religious organization should be tax exempt. Make 'em all pay in--temples, mosques, synagogues, churches, the works.
 
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shagster01 said:
Sounds like the big problem here is that Christians only want to tithe if it's a tax write off.
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Given that a tithe is unbiblical to begin with... i think it has to do more with them being passive aggressive... protesting church leaders that are falsely teaching about a tithe to line their pockets.
 
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HisServant said:
Given that a tithe is unbiblical to begin with... i think it has to do more with them being passive aggressive... protesting church leaders that are falsely teaching about a tithe to line their pockets.
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It's unbiblical to give back to your church?
 
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shagster01 said:
It's unbiblical to give back to your church?
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A tithe is a biblical concept where one tribe of Israel was deprived the right of land ownership within the promised land.. in response to this the 11 tribes were required to give a 10th of the excess over the previous year. The tithe was also goods... not money. So they gave livestock, crops, etc.

As Christians, we have no tribe of Levites to support... we also were not given a plot of land that was to stay in the family forever.

We also do not have any examples of 'churches' being build for the first century or so after Christ... what we do see are Christians being more social activists and donating their money to worthy causes as the Holy Spirit leads. The entire concept of a tithe circumvents the Holy Spirit's leading and reduces it to 'guilt'.. where as the money is given to a church instead of the people that need it.

If I were running things, there would be no christian church buildings... the money would go where God wanted it to go.. not where carpet bagging pastors want it to go.
 
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