expos4ever
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Moving the goalposts!
I never denied that Mr. Aaron's death was due to the vaccine.
Your lie was the claim that it was due to the vaccine.
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I never denied that Mr. Aaron's death was due to the vaccine.
Your lie was the claim that it was due to the vaccine.
Then you called me a liar for saying something you failed to prove was a lie.
expos4ever
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All right, let's do this real nice and slow.
You posted this:
"You call me a liar for saying vaccinated people can get covid"
You cannot deny this - the proof is in the transcript of this thread.
This statement of yours is a lie, a falsehood, a fiction, a mendacity.
How do we know this? Because I guarantee that you cannot demonstrate that I ever called you a liar for saying vaccinated people can get covid.
Marke, you are a liar.
Own it, because it is a demonstrable fact.
Now you are calling me a liar for claiming you falsely called me a liar in a post in which you never proved I lied.
The experts say no such things, of course:
The BBC can reveal that more than a third of 26 major trials of ivermectin for use on Covid have serious errors or signs of potential fraud. None of the rest show convincing evidence of ivermectin's effectiveness.
Dr Kyle Sheldrick, one of the group investigating the studies, said they had not found "a single clinical trial" claiming to show that ivermectin prevented Covid deaths that did not contain "either obvious signs of fabrication or errors so critical they invalidate the study".
Major problems included:
- The same patient data being used multiple times for supposedly different people
- Evidence that selection of patients for test groups was not random
- Numbers unlikely to occur naturally
- Percentages calculated incorrectly
- Local health bodies unaware of the studies
They formed a group looking deeper into ivermectin studies after biomedical student Jack Lawrence spotted problems with an influential study from Egypt. Among other issues, it contained patients who turned out to have died before the trial started. It has now been retracted by the journal that published it.
Ivermectin: How false science created a Covid 'miracle' drug
Thousands worldwide have taken ivermectin to fight Covid. But what's the evidence?
expos4ever
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No, I am calling you a liar because these threads testify, in grisly glory, as to your pattern of systematically lying.
Once more: you posted this:
"You call me a liar for saying vaccinated people can get covid"
This statement of yours, marke, is what we call a lie -you are deliberately asserting something you know to be false, namely that I have called you a liar for saying vaccinated people can get covid.
We all know that vaccinated people can get covid! And what is more relevant, I never, repeat NEVER called you a liar for saying something that I know to be true - that vaccinated people can get covid.
This is a fact, marke - there is not a shred of evidence anywhere in these threads to the effect that I called you a liar for saying that vaccinated people can get covid.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
then it's not a vaccine
expos4ever
Well-known member
Come on, make it at least plausible.
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If it were a real vaccine... like say a polio vaccine... it's one and done.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Define "vaccine"
You obviously aren't very intelligent if you don't know what a vaccine is and furthermore you could look it up yourself if you really wanted to know. You would also know that "breakthrough" cases in vaccinated individuals are generally milder than cases among the unvaccinated, and hospitalizations and deaths among the vaccinated are comparatively rare. You would know all of this already if you really wanted to know the truth, but of course you have no interest in that.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
It's not that hard - go on Google and type in "definition of vaccine"
Cut and paste the results that you get in your next response
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
If you find those simple tasks difficult, find a youngster to help youIt's not that hard - go on Google and type in "definition of vaccine"
Cut and paste the results that you get in your next response
I think I'll just sit back and let you continue to "play dumb," which for you isn't much of a stretch.It's not that hard - go on Google and type in "definition of vaccine"
Cut and paste the results that you get in your next response
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Covid vaccines are not conventional vaccines and have only been used as vaccine alternatives for a very short time.
mRNA vaccines — a new era in vaccinology - Nature Reviews Drug Discovery
mRNA vaccines represent a promising alternative to conventional vaccine approaches, but their application has been hampered by instability and delivery issues. Here, Pardi and colleagues discuss recent advances in mRNA vaccine technology, assess mRNA vaccines currently in development for cancer...
Nucleic acid therapeutics have emerged as promising alternatives to conventional vaccine approaches. The first report of the successful use of in vitro transcribed (IVT) mRNA in animals was published in 1990, when reporter gene mRNAs were injected into mice and protein production was detected5. A subsequent study in 1992 demonstrated that administration of vasopressin-encoding mRNA in the hypothalamus could elicit a physiological response in rats6. However, these early promising results did not lead to substantial investment in developing mRNA therapeutics, largely owing to concerns associated with mRNA instability, high innate immunogenicity and inefficient in vivo delivery. Instead, the field pursued DNA-based and protein-based therapeutic approaches7,8.
The charts don't lie. But no one is going to run a clinical study on what might as well be a generic drug.The experts say no such things, of course:
The BBC can reveal that more than a third of 26 major trials of ivermectin for use on Covid have serious errors or signs of potential fraud. None of the rest show convincing evidence of ivermectin's effectiveness.
Dr Kyle Sheldrick, one of the group investigating the studies, said they had not found "a single clinical trial" claiming to show that ivermectin prevented Covid deaths that did not contain "either obvious signs of fabrication or errors so critical they invalidate the study".
Major problems included:
The scientists in the group - Dr Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, Dr James Heathers, Dr Nick Brown and Dr Sheldrick - each have a track record of exposing dodgy science. They've been working together remotely on an informal and voluntary basis during the pandemic.
- The same patient data being used multiple times for supposedly different people
- Evidence that selection of patients for test groups was not random
- Numbers unlikely to occur naturally
- Percentages calculated incorrectly
- Local health bodies unaware of the studies
They formed a group looking deeper into ivermectin studies after biomedical student Jack Lawrence spotted problems with an influential study from Egypt. Among other issues, it contained patients who turned out to have died before the trial started. It has now been retracted by the journal that published it.
Ivermectin: How false science created a Covid 'miracle' drug
Thousands worldwide have taken ivermectin to fight Covid. But what's the evidence?www.bbc.com
The difference is the establishment is desperate to create a narrative that says only vaccines work, while people that care, including a great number of experts, can show that invermectin works. The establishment won't look into experts suspicions of problems with the vaccines because they don't care about people.
Beyond that, the vast majority of people will have a better chance of surviving COVID than risking the long term problems with the vaccination. Even if the sickness is worse without the vaccination, it will be about the same as the regular flu at worst. And they will be immune from getting it again. Even the variants will be less dangerous.
So why do you believe the BBC whenyou know they don't care about people dying?
No, they don't:
"Uttar Pradesh is leading India's Covid-19 vaccination drive..."
UP leads India’s Covid vaccination drive with more than 6 crore doses administered
Uttar Pradesh is leading India's Covid-19 vaccination drive with more than six crore doses administered. However, the major challenge that now faces the state is increasing the number of people who have received their second dose.
"A stringent 'trace, test and treat' measure, vaccination and partial curfews have paid dividends in restricting Covid-19 spread."
Uttar Pradesh: 23 districts are now Covid-19 free, recovery rate over 98%
In Uttar Pradesh, as many as 23 districts have now become free from Covid-19 while the recovery rate has climbed up to 98.6%.
Yes they did.
You're like a zombie banging on a keyboard!"Uttar Pradesh is leading India's Covid-19 vaccination drive..."
UP leads India’s Covid vaccination drive with more than 6 crore doses administered
Uttar Pradesh is leading India's Covid-19 vaccination drive with more than six crore doses administered. However, the major challenge that now faces the state is increasing the number of people who have received their second dose.www.indiatoday.in
"A stringent 'trace, test and treat' measure, vaccination and partial curfews have paid dividends in restricting Covid-19 spread."
Uttar Pradesh: 23 districts are now Covid-19 free, recovery rate over 98%
In Uttar Pradesh, as many as 23 districts have now become free from Covid-19 while the recovery rate has climbed up to 98.6%.
Again, UP didn't ramp up vaccines until after ivermectin had already brought down the numbers to no-big-deal. And the new regime stopped the use of invermectin... and despite the huge increase in vaccines, the numbers went back up!
Dude, you already knew this. Do you even listen to yourself?
Truth has zero priority with UN.Yes they did.
You're like a zombie banging on a keyboard!
Again, UP didn't ramp up vaccines until after ivermectin had already brought down the numbers to no-big-deal. And the new regime stopped the use of invermectin... and despite the huge increase in vaccines, the numbers went back up!
Dude, you already knew this. Do you even listen to yourself?