77% of all US deaths from covid are among the age group 65 and up. 85% of all Americans in the age group 65 and up have been vaccinated. That means there are more deaths in the US from covid among the vaccinated than there are among the unvaccinated.
Between the beginning of January 2020 and June 14, 2023, of the 1,134,641 deaths caused by COVID-19 in the United States, around 307,169 had occurred among those aged 85 years and older.
www.statista.com
Take this data for example: 100% of Vermont residents 75 years and older have been vaccinated.
How is Vermont progressing in its mission to vaccinate the population? See how many people are fully vaccinated state-wide and parse the numbers by demographics.
usafacts.org
Just this week three of the four newly reported covid deaths were among those 80 or older.
The state has reported 37 deaths in September, making this the second-deadliest month of the pandemic.
vtdigger.org
You do the math.
You are simply delusional. This is nothing at all but a propagandist's false use of statistics. It is completely irrelevant to compare the numbers in this manner.
As of August 5th...
- Per the CDC, more than 166 million people have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. (This number is now 189 million.)
- The data suggests 1,507 people (about 0.0001%) of those fully vaccinated people died from COVID-19.
- Meanwhile, 7,101 people of those fully vaccinated people (about 0.005%) were hospitalized from COVID-19.
- About 20% of the people who died with COVID-19 after a breakthrough case died from something other than COVID-19, though they had a breakthrough case when they died.
As of August 29th the COVID19 death rate is...
Unvaccinated - 9.14 per 100,000 people
Fully Vaccinated - 0.74 per 100,000 people
So you are 12.35 times more likely to die of COVID19 if you are not vaccinated. That, at least was the number on August 29th after we had started coming off the peak of this last wave. If you aggregate the numbers for the whole month of August, the numbers look slightly different. Over the whole month of August you were 6.1X more likely to test positive for COVID19 and had an 11.3X greater chance of dying of COVID19 if you were not vaccinated.
As of June the vaccines where 91% effective at preventing infection. That number has since dropped to 66% in August due to both time passage since the vaccine was administered and the rise of the Delta variant. During the SAME time frame, the vaccines effectiveness at preventing hospitalization due to COVID19 has actually increased slightly from 84% to 89%.
Lastly, to hit your asinine "argument" squarely between the eyes, using the numbers on August 15th (i.e. the peak of this last wave)....
Covid19 Death Rate (per 100,000 people)
| Age Group | Vaccinated | Unvaccinated |
| 65-79 | 2.94 | 47.51 (16X more likely to die of COVID19) |
| 80+ | 15.03 | 69.39 (4X more likely to die of COVID19) |
In case you missed it, which I have no doubt that you did, this means that for persons 65-79 years of age, the vaccine is MORE effective than it is in the overall population!
On a side note - Since there is such a precipitous drop in the vaccines prevention of death for those 80+ then that probably means that the higher risk age group is actually in the higher range of the 65-79 age group. In other words, if they broke the age groups into 5 year increments instead of 15 year increments, it seems the 65-70 group would have much lower numbers than the rest and thus the real high risk age group probably starts closer to 75 than it does 65. That's speculation, of course, but these numbers do seem to suggest that.
So, the bottom line is that the vaccines clearly work and there can be no rational denial that they work. They have saved countless lives and continue to do so.
Clete
