So letting a minor who is pregnant give birth is abuse? At what age do you draw the line? With that mentality the 11% of children born in the USA aught to have been aborted and their grandparents are abusive for not taking their lives.
Yet I wonder, how is abortion not abusive?
You're avoiding important qualifications to this statement:
Forcing an
11 yr. old child to birth her own child
after a violent rape. YES...that is abuse!
I don't know the specifics. You may know them ....but you're only spinning the dangers and complications of abortion. This clearly shows the level of intellectual dishonesty you're displaying here.
Hinduism, Buddhism. action, seen as bringing upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad, either in this life or in a reincarnation:
It's at the heart of the matter, the sanctity of life.
Abortion is bad karma. For both mother and fetus.
While it's pretty obvious why abortion is considered to generate bad karma for the mother and the abortionist it may not be so obvious why it generates bad karma for the foetus.
The foetus suffers bad karma because its soul is deprived of the opportunities that an earthly existence would have given it to earn good karma, and is returned immediately to the cycle of birth, death and rebirth. Thus abortion hinders its spiritual progress.
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Buddhism and Abortion
Since you're giving reincarnation lip-service perhaps the fetus is paying a karmic debt by being aborted. Plus, if the aborted fetus will experience rebirth...where's the "hindered" spirited progress. The author of this biased quote does not and cannot answer these questions...instead I'll ask them one question they should answer:
Why would you or perhaps this author wish a suffering existence on a being when there's a possibility to avoid suffering? These are philosophical points your superficial pseudo-Buddhists web-sights don't even consider yet alone contemplate. Don't come on here quoting Buddhists web-factoids and offer up shallow, perfunctory Buddhist instruction.
What if that's how the 11 year old was conceived, herself?
And what's the relevance if it was?
So she's unworthy and so is her baby, right? Wouldn't her parents be there for the baby like they were for her?
Unworthy..were are you getting this?
Sure all the more reason to add the parent's opinion to the mix...which might be to abort.
So the daughter you have, if she was not biologically yours but conceived in rape, would you look at her today and say "not much of value here?"
This is no more than a straw-take. First, this is about the 11 yr old (her abuse) second it's the fetus and whether to abort or not....I see it as further abuse to demand a raped little girl give birth. Second, my general view is that the fetus has less moral value than the mother; not the fetus has
zero value. Again, you're exaggerating facts for effect and to fit your ideology.
Are you sure he wouldn't say ""Everyone fears punishment; everyone fears death, just as you do. Therefore do not kill or cause to kill. Everyone fears punishment; everyone loves life, as you do. Therefore do not kill or cause to kill."
...Because "life is suffering" right?
Fetus' can't fear death nor are they sentient so the "everyone" qualification fails here.
Why do you say
life is suffering with quotes?
Are you suggesting that a baby is no more than my "particular strain of moral idealism?"
No. forcing every woman to give birth under any form of circumstances under the mantra "All life is sacred"....is your particular strain of moral idealism.
How is further injury to healing parts and hearts "succor?"
I not sure what you're talking about here. I already gave you the "toothache" analogy...which you seem to have conveniently deleted.
I've been pregnant many times. Your idea of the process is uninformed.
Then you know the risks and what it does or potentially do to the body...I've been through five of my own - from the male side of the equation
- during none of those five births were the risks and pain negligible...makes me wonder why you're ignoring the issue!
That's a good reason to choose the better karmic path.
The Karma is tough either way...zero sum.
Untrue by my standards and yours.
Buddhism believes in rebirth and teaches that individual human life begins at conception. The new being, bearing the karmic identity of a recently deceased individual, is therefore as entitled to the same moral respect as an adult human being. |
No, quite wrong. There is no dogma in Buddhism and that's exactly what you're implying here. Many, in fact, most Buddhists would favor easing the suffering of the mother over a non-sentient, incipient life-form. You're simply quoting a pro-life, biased Buddhist web-sight.