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Atmospheric Looming Atmospheric looming is the magnification of an object that makes it appear larger and higher than it really is. This does not lift an object such as this ship from below a supposed curvature to the horizon but lifts it from the horizon to seem higher than the horizon...

There is no dispute that the Chicago sky line is visible from Michigan across Lake Michigan which is about 60 miles away. There is no dispute that the very bottom is not visible. There is no dispute that the sky line, with the tallest building being 1,450 ft. tall would not be visible form...

We all can see beyond 3 miles but there is a limit as to how far we can see across the landscape. If there is a car travelling down the road it will no longer be visible to us at about 3 miles. A car gets pretty small at 3 miles away, If we see any thing at ground level beyond 3 miles it's...

:deadhorse: When I have found that "thing" that makes me say I believe in globe or flat I will let you know. --Dave

I still view all of it. -Dave

The Sun --Dave

I'm compiling evidence for one side while you are compiling it for the other. By comparing both sides every one can decide for themselves which side is the most compelling and more accurate in their mind. The question you ask presumes there is evidence that flat earth is obviously wrong to any...

Yes I have seen them and will see more of it then comment on what we see from rockets. I think I did this before but I will do it again with Space X included this time. But I want to finish up on what we see from earth first. --Dave

Kansas is as flat as a pancake means it is flat and level from end to end. Elevation has nothing to do with what people mean by flat and nothing to do with what the study was about. You're projecting. --Dave

Fake as any thing you see from Star wars. --Dave

You are avoiding the "fact" that, for example, the Chicago sky line should not be visible across Lake Michigan, not any of it. A 60 mile distance is a 2,400 drop. The Sears/Willis building is 1,450 feet tall. The "fact" that any of it can be seen at a distance of 59 miles "proves" the supposed...

I think the article and the study is clear, Kansas is actually "flat", not relatively flat in relation to the effect of gravity. Again we see that no test or experiment can be made to prove flatness vs curvature. --Dave

The moon is not far away on flat earth. If the moon was as far away as globe earth determines we would not see it the way we do with all the detail on it. --Dave

I think you're totally wrong here. Things not only get smaller and smaller the further away they get, we agree on this, but everything does disappear from view eventually. There is no doubt that things are being seen at distances that would not make that possible if the earth were curved. But I...

Flat Earth or Superior Mirage - Chicago Skyline --Dave

Pictures from who? NASA? --Dave

They did not count zigzags as miles, all sailing ships will encounter different winds and will not zigzag the same way. Nautical miles are straight, or all their maps would be worthless. There is no way that 10,000 miles becomes 60,000 miles. They made accurate maps, not relative ones. --Dave

The boat is not a mirage is the point. The video shows there is a distance that can be seen with zoom lenses that reveal an extended horizon, seemingly invisible, beyond the one we can see. --Dave

You want to totally disregard that almost the whole bridge is in view when according to the said curvature almost all of it should not have been visible. There are more videos that show things at a greater distance than this bridge. The atmosphere is a factor is not denied, it's that when close...

Is Kansas flat as a pancake? "Three geographers compared the flatness of Kansas to the flatness of a pancake. They used topographic data from a digital scale model prepared by the US Geological Survey, and they purchased a pancake from the International House of Pancakes. If perfect flatness...