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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Obviously you know nothing about sailing. And you're avoiding my questions about refraction. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The article did not answer my questions. I was asking about things we see on the earth, in the distance, like skylines, boats, cars, etc. How do we know when and if a distant object on earth is a refraction or the real actual object? --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    How is it tested and proven?? Just saying it is is not an answer. Refractions exist as mirages and can be demonstrated from objects in and out of water at the same time. Objects down the block from me are not refractions nor two blocks from me. If it's so simple and so obvious then answer my...
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Refraction Are objects we see in the distance refracted images? A refracted image is not the actual location of an object. The fish you see in the water from the surface is not where the fish actually is located. But if you are under the water with the fish there is no refraction and the fish is...
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Planes go up, level off then come down. That's the only arch that they actually fly. There are pilots that say the earth is flat. Cook did not get to the ice walls. He did not sail close enough. "In 1773 James Cook and his crew crossed the Antarctic Circle for the first time but although they...
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Looking for truth Let's be careful here, I'm presenting flat earth arguments in a debate. That I am spreading a lie is nearly an indictment of deliberate intent to spread falsehood. A debate that presents both sides is an intent to find the truth and that's what I am attempting. You all already...
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Looking for truth Let's be careful here, I'm presenting flat earth arguments in a debate. That I am spreading a lie is nearly an indictment of deliberate intent to spread falsehood. A debate that presents both sides is an intent to find the truth and that's what I am attempting. You all already...
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    How Boats Vanish Over The Horizon" ON A FLAT EARTH. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    How to test for flat vs globe Testing the horizon line. See my last post #1487 as a preliminary. I want to focus now on just this aspect of the debate and come to a final summary of it for both sides. The subject matter could have been divided up into many threads not just one, hindsight. A...
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    How to test for flat vs globe In order to test this we must first agree on the basics and how we define them. First of all we must distinguish between actual experiment and thought experiment. "Thought experiments are devices of the imagination used to investigate the nature of things. They...
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Maybe the "experts" are so biased toward a globe that they are wrong. --Dave
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Eric Dubay is at the head of this movement and he is a pantheist, Buddhist or Hindu. --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Flat vs globe Circumference The circumferences from the top down globe and middle out flat to the equator are the same on both. The circumferences below the equator on flat earth would get longer and on the globe would become smaller again. James Clark, as previously mentioned sailed 60,000...
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Flat earth is cosmetic cosmology, good one. See post #1462 and #1463, and give me your analysis. --Dave
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I've always said I'm a theologian and philosopher, by the time I've covered all the bases on this subject can I call myself a scientist or cosmologist? I'd prefer scientist although it would be a stretch, but I fear cosmologist might make some think I do cosmetics. Thanks for all your...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I said there is no dispute that the sky line, with the tallest building being 1,450 ft. tall would not be visible form said point based on a curved drop of 2,400 ft. You said, false. So to be clear about this, let me say that we cannot see the "actual" skyline because it is hidden from view by...
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    What is and is not fake? This is the most important question of our day. Fake news: The major news networks have certainly been creating fake news. The liberal press, in an attempt to prevent Trump from being elected, deliberately produced false polling data intended to discourage voter turn...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The best arguments will convince me. --Dave :sherlock:
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Atmospheric Magnification on a Flat Earth Answer as to why skyline is cut off at the bottom on a flat earth. --Dave
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