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To everyone. No one gets anywhere in a debate if too much information and too many points are made in the same post. I don't want to tell anyone how they should do this because I like information, but I personally want to take my time to focus on a deeper analysis of some of the claims from...

It's not a three foot drop every three miles from where you stand and watch, the next three miles, which would be six miles away, is a 24 foot drop. We also have to know what the power of magnification is of the telescope or camera that is being used. The Nikon P900, one of the most powerful and...

The guy on the video says at the beginning that we see that the sun moves at a constant speed across the sky but in the globe model the sun is not moving, the earth is spinning. Listen to it and tell my if I heard him correctly. Is his view geocentric or heliocentric? --Dave

We "move" on earth in many directions. Just "move" your hands and fingers over your keyboard and make your point. Don't let gravity stop you. --Dave

We can see ships in the distance. The Nikon P900 is 83x--magnification. And we are seeing ships, landscapes, and cityscapes at distances that we are not supposed to see if the earth were a globe. I honestly never realized that the curvature of the earth, if it's a globe, is 8 inch per mile...

The videos you show for this I think are well done and easy to understand and not too offensive. --Dave

I said on flat earth nothing needs to be "pulled" down or "pulled" in any other direction. On a spinning orbiting globe there has to be a reason that things not immovably attached to the earth don't fly off it. Gravity is not a discovery, it's a thought experiment used to explain the impossible...

I've watched the video and I want you to give me time to analyze it since I have not heard an argument from the three paths of the sun before. I want to understand this argument well enough to give an appropriate response. The video starts out with what I believe is the heart of the problem of...

If you want to share it here please do, or link me to PJ's thread so I can look at it. --Dave

They work because the sun is moving. But if you think you can prove your point, go ahead. --Dave

This is why we are debating flat earth 1. Experiments could not detect motion to the earth. "Soon I came to the conclusion that our idea about the motion of the Earth with respect to the ether is incorrect, if we admit Michelson’s null result as a fact. This was the first path which led me to...

Good we have much to debate, glad you're on board. --Dave

I'm going to start a new thread as part 2 of this one so you all can edit your posts. I will do this tomorrow evening. --Dave

I want to keep it. --Dave Sent from my iPhone using TOL

I always "Go Advanced" to check everything before I "Submit Reply". --Dave

As I said, the aether was already understood to exist since Newton and you ignored it. I have quotes that say that the movement of the earth was not detected and the aether that is the medium for the transmission of light, etc., was sacrificed by heliocentrics to save heliocentrism. Mapping is...

We don't need to be pulled down. --Dave

No one here really needs your mindless commentary that has only one point you make over and over. If you have anything intelligent to add to this thread then fine, but if all you want to do is "ridicule" this thread then once is enough. --Dave

Here is my first response to the Testing Flattards - Part 1 The first point is that all the oldest maps are flat maps and the globe map is a revision or altered creation of the flat map. One might say that's obvious because the ancient world did not know they were on a globe. Yet all past and...

Gravity is needed force to keep everything from flying off a spinning ball and keep the moon and planets in their orbit. If the sun, moon, and stars are not spinning orbiting planets and the earth is not a spinning ball then we don't need that kind of force. You presume that we would all float...