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I understand your argument I just have not seen how this is verifiable. I hope that you understand when we are shown how we measure the angle and azimuth that one has to do it as if the earth is flat and the horizon is straight. It makes no sense to assume flat earth in order to prove a globe...

You personally watched the sun "all day" and observe an arc that actually curved in conformity with an globe like daqq illustrates here? I know he's not trying to illustrate this to exact scale but I get his point. --Dave

The angle for the sun is built on a plane as if the earth was flat and a circle. Since the distance of the sun is not a factor in its angle it is presumed the arc of the sun's path is the opposite of what would be expected if the earth was flat from the north compared to the south. All...

Mapping and distance is certainly an important part of the flat earth vs globe earth debate. I will go into more comparisons from each type of map. NASA's visual presentations of space is also important. Do you have anything more to say about those earth from space pics that are inconsistent...

Flat earth seasons explained --Dave

Measuring the angle of the sun seems easy enough. Here is a good video your argument is based on. Globed earth's tilted axis contradicts its orbital path. Why is the earth tilted and not perpendicular to the sun it orbits on a "flat" path? One would think that the spinning of the earth and...

You must know that these are not actual pictures from space. All the globe pictures that have been made by NASA are photoshopped. We know that because they all are different in ways they should not be. Look for yourself. Go here: Images for Earth from space from NASA I'm a graphic artist and...

Is that you in the cockpit of the Blackbird? Your second picture shows a flat horizon. There are four ways you can see a photo of a curved earth. 1. The fish eye lens on a GoPro camera 2. A wide angle lens 3. A picture through a curved window like on a jet. 4. Photoshop This is what...

ok daqq, this will take me I little time. --Dave

I gave you an answer. Now make a argument with a point or get lost. I will have no more response to you until you do. --Dave

It would be better if you just made your point, if you have one. --Dave

My remark, "Don't let gravity stop you", is called sarcasm, do you know what that means? --Dave

The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

The question is how are these arcs proposed by globe earth validated? --Dave

I have opened the new thread. --Dave

Here is a diagram with the degrees and tilt. I would say we are at least on the same page here and that I am understanding the argument properly. I don't want to proceed unless we can agree on this, 100% is not necessary, just well enough will do. --Dave

Why are you posting here when you asked for a part two that you could use editing??? --Dave

I understand what your diagram is showing. But I still want to see the sun in relation to the earth that is the basis for your diagram. This diagram below is what I mean. The distance of the sun from the earth, and its size are very different from the flat earth vs the globe models. The...

I have flown from New York many times to see family and friends in Minnesota. My last trip I realized that the earth beneath me was not moving and the horizon did indeed rise to my eye level and it was straight and horizontal just as flat earth people were saying. There was absolutely no...

I accept your explanation, but one should be consistent with their argument. Can we agree that there is obviously no difference between flat earth and heliocentrism as to what we see and experience in terms of their being a calender movement of the sun through the seasons from the Tropic of...