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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't question the "existence of" satellites, the ISS, space shuttle, or anything else that is in low earth orbit. I question the moon landings. I question that anything is actually orbiting higher than high earth altitude. The highest ameture rocket went up about 70 miles. So that NASA...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If we don't see the curvature then we are not seeing a globe when we look down because globe means a curved earth. --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    A globe that drops 8 inches per mile squared in all directions is not beyond our ability to see and test for. --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No, perspective it would not work with a curved earth. A landscape cannot be both falling downward and away from you and at the same time appear to be rising up ahead of you. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The clouds that are not directly over our head tell us they do not curve downward... --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I made my definition clear and provided a pic to illustrate it. The ground beneath us appears to rise up to our eye level when it actually does not. Things in the sky over us seem to go downward when they actually do not. Do you deny this or not? --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    They're not my videos. I will be putting it in my own words. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Only a small group of astronauts have supposedly ever personally seen the globe. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    So, no Russians ever said we never went to the moon. Russia suggests America has NEVER landed on the moon and calls for 'an investigation into what really happened' "A Russian official has has cast doubt on the first moon landings and demanded an investigation into what really happened after...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If the horizon is in the middle of the picture it's at eye level and the earth is flat. If the horizon is way down below the middle of the picture the earth is a globe. GoPro cameras that have a fisheye lens can produce a non existent curved horizon at any level. That's common undisputed...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Yes, there is an answer. I posted a video with the anwer. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If that were true then you would see the bottom of the clouds bend downward over the horizon. The bottoms of the clouds stay flat because they are over a flat plane. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You are fundamentally flawed in your thinking if you can't make the distinction between what is real and what is not, what is a reflection of something and what is the actual thing. Again, a reflection is not the real thing. We are not the mirrored image. We are outside of and distinct from...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    For a refracted image of Chicago to be seen with a superior mirage over it would require actually three different layers of air. 1. First layer is cold air over water. 2. The second layer would be warm air over the cold air. 3. What would be the third layer of air in order to get an upside...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Is it possible for this atmospheric condition that you are describing, a very dense layer of air trapped above the water filled with a high volume of water molecules, to block the view of what is in the distance, say 50 miles away, and appear as if it were water. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Your drawing conclusions from your own presumptions. A case for flat or globe must be built first on what we can know from what we can observe without contradictions. I'm building a case for flat earth, if it is possible to do so, from the ground up not from the sky down. The earth itself...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon. The two phrases are actually heads and tails from the same coin, I'm sure you remember the words from an old song, "you can't have one without the other." If we did go to the moon then all that NASA informs us of is basically true and the...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Flat earth must first establish what perspective is and how it affects what we can and cannot see before we look at the sun. How do you explain perspective? It seems that only a limited perspective is acceptable for globe earth. I'd say globe earth understands what perspective is but rejects...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You don't have to watch all of it, just enough of it to get the point. All views as we elevate show the horizon staying at eye level and absolutely no video shows the horizon dropping down further and further away the higher we go. If the horizon stays at eye level then by prediction we are...
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