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You're very correct in that in order to "really" undo the globe one must undo almost all the historical support for it. This seems an impossible task. I don't see as yet how I can personally take either side with full confidence. I have been studying this for a while now hoping for a way to...

Being on top of the earth is not like being in water either, another false analogy. Neither the air, the atmosphere, nor gravity effects the movement of anything through it. Only if the earth had a "solid" ceiling above and around it would we have a equivalent analogy that being on earth is...

My website was made after years of study, my debate here is based on a presentation of flat earth arguments I have not studied for years. The arguments for it are not mine in the same way arguments for God's existence and nature are mine from my website. I'm not making here personal final...

Questioning and debating a subject is not a "behavior". --Dave

Experience has nothing to do with what is written. The sun stood still is the same thing as the earth stopped spinning. Literally taken it's the sun that stands still because it's the sun that's moving not the earth. Non-literally the earth stands still because it's the earth that's moving not...

Sagnac confirmeds Michelson Morley and Michelson Gale. “The experiment known as “Airy's Failure” proved that the stars move relative to a stationary Earth and not the other way around." --Wiki Light travels and stars move through the same medium in space, regardless of what you call it, and...

The theory of relativity is not a proof. That we can propose and explain a heliocentric where everything is moving is not proof that it's true. --Dave

I simply pointed that even in a moving car one can tell it's the car your in that's moving and not everything around is move instead of you. The whole idea that our moving planet can be compared to being in a moving car is ridiculous when it's easy to know you are in moving car. We observe the...

We are on top of a spinning globe not in it as in a car. The globe model has a false analogy problem, not flat motionless earth. --Dave

We are not "in" the earth as "in" a car. We are "on top" of the moving globe as "on top" of a moving car. Do I have to explain the difference, or can you figure it out? The globe spinning earth is not our experience from earth. This is an absolute certainty. The moving sun, that we see...

Null affect, read the article I posted. How Einstein Made the Earth Move (…When All the Experiments Showed it Didn’t Move) See PDF Albert Einstein: the Earth Mover --Dave

The sun stood still is not the same as the earth stood still. If the the earth stood still then this verse, that the sun stood still, is not to be taken literally. Lucky for you I don't call you an idiot for not understanding something so simple. --Dave

So much of what I write you misinterpret because you chop it up into singe sentences without following the train of thought. How Einstein Made the Earth Move (…When All the Experiments Showed it Didn’t Move) See PDF Albert Einstein: The Earth Mover The experiments that proceeded Einstein's...

Funny how you think using quote marks is funny. The word "if" means the premise is questionable, but this is correct logic based on the premise. You can change the premise and say "if" we don't take these verses "literally" we do not have a flat earth from the Bible. We not only don't feel...

Stars fall to earth. Sun moves and then stands still. God sits above the "circle", not ball of the earth. These verses cannot be taken literally for a globe earth spinning and rotating around the sun. --Dave

A spinning earth travels around the sun is basic heliocentrism as opposed to the sun travels around the earth, be it motionless globe or motionless flat earth. I understand all the cosmological models. --Dave

I said "if" you take the Bible "literally" on the matter it's flat earth. I said "if" the earth is indeed flat then it's Satan who is behind the conspiracy to make us reject this "literal" interpretation. When arguing on behalf of a view you make your case as they would do with no "ifs" about...

I posted this video so that all of you will see what's happening and know why flat earth is a growing movement. Mark Sargent makes valid points in this video. I'm researching FE and watching it along with trying to comprehend all that has made heliocentrism our belief today. --Dave

I've written down all claims the of those who believe the earth is flat. I'm not the author and originator of any of it. Some arguments are good, some not so good. I started studying cosmology 5 years ago as the last of my personal concerns after theology and evolution. I started with modern...

--Dave