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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Why the tilt of the earth and why the elliptical orbit. Make sense of it for me. That gravity or the speed of the earth are not constant seem problematic to say the lest. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I'll do a summary, no problem, but not tonight. I have to get up at three in the morning for work. --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    As I have made clear, math is not a proof since it requires a premise that may or may not be true. The person performing the math is not the person taking off in the rocket. Did Glenn really circle a globe or not, I have my doubts. If the earth is a globe the math is correct, if the earth is not...
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I already made a general comment for this video. Where you are and how the dome will effect what we see explains the stars rotation. --Dave
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Since you know everything about this subject then please explain it for me. So far you haven't explained anything. Instead of saying how dumb I am why don't you show me how smart you are? --Dave
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Flat earth answer to star rotation --Dave
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Saying 4% may not seem significant but saying it's 3 million miles is. How many degrees in the rise of the temperature could significantly alter the world's climate? Only a few. The flat earth movement is here to question and challenge the heliocentric model. If we just accept what ever...
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    "Earth is about 3 million miles (5 million km) closer to the sun in early January than it is in early July. That's always the case. Earth is closest to the sun every year in early January, when it's winter for the Northern Hemisphere." The "South Pole" would be where it should be the warmest...
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    And what explanation makes this model rational? That it's winter when we are closest and summer when farther away makes this model absurd. --Dave
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The problems with the heliocentric model The heliocentric model does not work unless we imagine a contradictory tilt and elliptical orbit that defy rational explanation. The tilt of the earth as it orbits the sun is an absolute impossibility. Physical law would demand a perpendicular axis to...
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There are other explanations for what we see in the movement of the stars. There certainly would be differences in what we would see from directly under the north pole as compared to the southern ends of the flat earth. But that the stars are moving and the earth is flat and not moving is the...
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I would not argue that we have no such things as satellites, I am only arguing that they do not prove a spinning globe earth. If the earth were a globe the satellites would be moving in a circle around the earth. If the earth were flat they would be moving in a circle above the earth. Our...
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    What would prove the earth is moving would be that we experience it moving. --Dave
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That any one went up in a rocket and can back to earth is one thing, that anyone circled a globed earth or went to the moon is another thing. The one does not prove the other. --Dave
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    As you say, "the stars are moving", not the earth. The Dome effects how we see the movement of sun, moon, and stars above us. That the heavenly bodies are moving and not the earth is what we all see and experience. --Dave
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    There is absolutely no video from high altitude balloons that show a moving globe earth. I've posted many video that show how "satellites" have been put into space by balloons which would have no problem working within the flat earth. --Dave
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The "math" involved in cosmology require a primes. "If" the earth is a spinning globe orbiting the sun "then" we can calculate etc. But if the earth is flat and the sun moves over it then other calculations would have to be devised to determine etc. Math presumes a cosmological reality but...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I believe it is very possible and likely the earth is flat with a dome as the Bible says it is. There's no "absolute proof" for the heliocentric model. And cosmology is not now, and has never been, based on logic alone, a premise has always been required. You, and everyone who believes in the...
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Evidence of flat earth from high rise balloon video I have watched hundreds of videos from high altitude balloons. Despite the use of a Go-Pro fish eye lens that distorts the horizon with a curvature that does not exist they all have the same characteristics. 1. The horizon in all directions...
  20. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Hi everyone. I see my thread is still going strong. I think I'll get back into this debate. I hope everyone is well. --Dave
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