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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This is truth concerning the globe earth From every point we stand on the globe the ground beneath our feet drops away and downward from us at 8 inches per mile squared in every direction as this chart shows. From the mouth of the Amazon rive the river must travel up to it from the origin or...
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    A presentation of both side is exactly what I intended in the first place. People can be wrong about many things and right about many other things. Shame on all of you who call any one presenting a counter view a lunatic. Call him wrong and destroy his arguments. Thank you for doing your best...
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Who was Newton? Who was Darwin? Who was Einstein? Can they not be questioned? I'm sure these men discovered many things that are true. But does that mean everything? In theology and philosophy we question everything and every body. It seems physics is holy ground. --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I've seen this at least twice. This video is good evidence for the spinning globe. I have said in the past that there exists "good evidence" for both spinning globe and "flat motionless earth". I've also said that the evidence for globe comes from looking into space not looking at the earth...
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Two cars 100 miles apart only have to travel 50 miles each in order to meet in the middle of the 100 mile distance. Correct? --Dave
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Clearly you can't answer my argument. --Dave
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Two cars 100 miles apart will meet at the center of 100 miles which is 50 miles if they travel at the same speed. If each car is moving at 100 mph they will both meet at the center 50 miles away in 30 min. --Dave
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    As I said, if the earth is a globe, the Amazon flows upward if you're standing at the mouth of it as it enters the Atlantic Ocean. We know this would be the case because where ever we are standing on a globe the ground beneath our feet gradually drops away from us downward at 8 inches per mile...
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Ancient Flat Earth "The flat Earth model is an archaic conception of Earth's shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat Earth cosmography, including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic...
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You're not addressing my argument. Rivers flow only downward from a higher to a lower elevation. This can only be done on a flat earth for rivers as long as the Amazon. On a globe the Amazon must flow upward to a higher elevation since from the mouth of the river all directions are downward...
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    A flat motionless earth is clear from earth through experience and the flow of rivers. On any point on a globe earth the earth drops away in all directions. This means that the longest rivers in the world, Amazon, Nile, and Mississippi flow both up and down depending on where you are, more...
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Evidence of a flat earth from the flow of rivers I have been arguing that we do not experience a spinning earth and that relativity is irrational. Now I want to argue we do not have a globe earth using the geography of rivers. All rivers flow from a higher elevation downward to a lower...
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I think you need to admit the error of your argument. My right is your left when facing each other means your example is clearing wrong. --Dave
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    So we can define things as immovable even when they are not??? Another example of the irrationality of relativity. Relativity is a never ending irrational infinite regress theory. --Dave
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The claim that the earth is not moving is called "empirical evidence". empirical based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic. Relativity is a denial of our senses and experience. --Dave
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I said "Just how do we move freely about in any direction in an atmosphere that is moving at such a high speed?" And you answer,"Because we are ALSO moving at "such a high speed" I hope everyone who reads these posts begins to see how utterly irrational relativity is. We move on earth freely...
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I never said the speed of the earth's spin in relation to itself. It seems you need everything spelled out for you. The spin is obviously in reference to the sun. The sun is motionless to the earth's orbit and spin. Wind speeds? If the atmosphere is made up of gases and water vapor the surface...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The car is not moving in opposite directions to us if we are facing each other, my left is your right. Can you see the fallacy of your argument? I sure hope so. But this is a good example of the irrationality of relativity. --Dave
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    But you can't leave out that the cars are both moving at 100 mph relative to a motionless road. So both cars are moving at 100 mph not 0 mph. You can't have a "speed/velocity" unless you have an immovable reference point. Atheism is the absence of absolutes, nothing is constant, unchanging...
  20. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't need to prove what we all can simply observe and experience. Relativity in morals means there are no morals. Relativity in epistemology means there is no truth. Relativity in physics means there is no ultimate reality. rel·a·tiv·i·ty 1. the absence of standards of absolute and...
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