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Then if Matthew 18:20 is interpreted that way, then it meant Mass all along (all through history), and Mass is where 'breaking bread' occurred, Communion, where Christ when instituting the Eucharist said His words "this is My body . . ." You're making my point for me. I didn't suggest Matthew...

No, you're just Catholic; you're just not 'in full communion,' which is basically short hand for formal 'worthiness' (cf. 1st Corinthians 11:27 &29) to receive Holy Communion. There's nothing stopping you from attending Mass though.

" For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." That means Mass. Just like 'breaking bread' means Mass. Confer Hebrews 10:25 " the assembling of ourselves together" Because you examined yourself and your conduct convinces you; no moral or...

EENS true doctrine: If Jesus saved you you're Catholic (whether you're outwardly Catholic or not)

I believe the world was made in six days flat.

Sure. I was asked this a long time ago, and my answer's the same, even though I myself wasn't yet theologically Catholic, let alone a convert, way back then. We are spiritually and mystically one body, but there is great division and factions on the earth right now between us. But it needn't...

He is our High Priest forever, agreed?

Rejection of the Real Presence didn't have any credibility as an idea until the Reformation. That's almost 1500 years of zero disputation, so what's wrong with calling it the Protestant view, alluding to the Protestant Reformation, which is when Christians first started to entertain this...

My phone has a feature where when I dial 911 the GPS automatically turns on so they can find me if I need help.

His shed blood being payment for sin requires a liturgical framework in order to be valid, and not just some random death that was after the fact proclaimed to be fulfillment of prophecy. This framework is the New Covenant, not the Old, which of course didn't have any part of it concerned with...

And if the Real Presence is true, then logically you're the sad ones. Agreed?

I agree with @brewmama's argument. It's like how I agree with Catholicism's ethics. I don't make the argument to support my ethics, I just say I'm Catholic. I have Catholic ethics.

These words have no meaning.

I indicated that. Meaning, there's no such thing as valid liturgy for believers in Christ. Oh. The Church is riven. It can't get any more divided!

Him who?

I can't believe I have to thank someone for reading what this thread's about before posting in it, but here we are: Thank you. The only one that cannot be concisely explained is the 'call no man father' bit. There is an answer, but it isn't brief. All the other charges about how Catholicism...

No they don't. I used to be a Protestant before I reasoned about Scripture at a high enough level to see how plain the liturgical argument for Orthodoxy and Catholicism is, it's a flat scriptural argument, and there isn't a credible alternative to the very literal interpretation of the Bible in...

Difference being, gun-toting isn't one day going to be replaced by driverless electric tractors churned out by Tesla.

You can say that he is a moral man, but does his putative ethics match your ethics? Ethics is a claim to be right and not only a personal choice made privately. Living a particular way is exclusionary to all the other lifestyle choices. All I'm willing to say is that pursuing weekly Mass and...

Your view is the Protestant view. It is the same view as the atheist view, I point out, just because it is a fact, and not to be offensive. Your view is that, during the one Church's valid liturgy, the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist is fiction. It doesn't matter if you don't believe...