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Welcome to the conversation. Appreciate your joining in. In Him -Lon

Then, honestly, you've nothing you can trust but yourself. You've a god in your own image at that point (as did Sadler). Nice spiritualizing of the text :Z It isn't how one reads and does theology: to suit their whims and already cemented Eastern Philosophies. Where? Not the UB. And the...

Rationalizations that appeal ONLY to men and their flesh and fallen sensibilities. It appeals to men in their fallen state that want nothing else. It is very much Eastern Mysticism Nirvana expressions from fleshly people.

ALL to give you an opportunity to turn YOUR drive-by away from being a drive-by (against TOL rules). I don't CARE if you don't like Calvinists. Doesn't bother me in the least. What is more? You have no idea even, if I am one! :noway: It doesn't matter, this isn't my thread. It is about...

Not NEARLY as bad as you imagine. Our divisions are congenial enough. There is proof of this at every big Christian concert, event, and gatherings (like the old Billy Graham Crusades). Dying? :nono: Not at all. Shrinking a bit? Yes, but not dying. Changing up. I do, however...

Ah, "John 12:49" Ever use an interlinear?

Drive-by marginalizing? You and I can talk about Calvinism (whether I am one or not) another day. Try not to give credit to the Urantia Book just to disdain someone who believes from the Bible alone, like Calvinism or Jehovah Witnesses lest you be seen as supporting the Urantia Book. As I...

What version are you using? 🤔 What English versions are you using? It makes sense you believe this way, these translations are a bit odd, in translating. If you can learn Greek, do so. This one of your's: "The things I say to you I do not speak of my own originality, but the Father who...

🤔 And the book of Mormon? Gospel of Thomas? I could see you saying "Calvinism is a bit like JW's" (not that I'd agree), but like Urantia? It leaves one wondering what else you'd draw akin to the sacred word. You are rather, imho, being un-discerning, a little less discriminate than...

A shortcoming on your part? 🤔 Again, learn to ask where you are confused instead of blaming others for what you don't understand (even if it is sometimes their fault). Just a suggest, leave it or take it. You CAN become better at conversation and ask good leading questions. Part of it is...

So you know the definition now, when did I attack your character? Did I call you a bad guy? No. Did I make assessments regarding your ability to understand context? Yes. Did it hurt your feelings? Likely, but education is about correction. There is no intent to make you feel poorly...

I disagree. The way you talk about him, you also believe it. There is no false claim. Why do you WANT to be on TOL with this stuff? Do you think any intelligent person is going to be duped by Dr. Sadler like you were? It isn't going to happen. Why be on TOL? I've found a good few...

It doesn't matter what he claimed. He edited the UB, he's "the guy." Hmmm, it'd appear even you think "he's the guy." The 'quality' of the book is substandard as literature. How in the wide world could you even think to compare such childishness with the Holy Writ? :idunno:

Thank you for the bit of work that took. -Lon

Not sure. Maccabees is certainly Jewish history and its celebration the reason for Hanukah. What place does Maccabees have in Jewish lives?

I know. I already said you are think of Him carnally (after the flesh). God is NOT subject to His creation. You've got God and the Universe co-eternal or co-temporal (as you pick). Both are antibiblical (another thread, not this one except that you are caught in the reasoning of flesh...

Er, no. I'm very sure you don't even know what an actual ad hominem is. This isn't it. Close, but no. Someone may rightly 'assess' your prowess. That isn't an ad hominem (look up the definition), it is trying to explain why we don't see eye to eye and why I believe the Unitarian conjecture...

I don't even know how you can print this with a straight face. You ACTUALLY buy into this stuff??? This is silly. It is directionless evolution where nothing is in charge of the cosmos AND it makes God Himself, a created being by the 'Big Bang.' Do YOU realize it is humanism? It is...

I understand this. You are caught up in a book that you and Freelight are responsible for on this website. The book does. It is 'antibiblical.' Moreover, you know it is. You've quoted from it against the Apostle Paul's (For one instance) testimony concerning His blood sacrifice...

No, I don't have to try harder. The scripture itself qualifies itself. John 1:3 is indeed emphatic whether you grasp that or not. It says 'without Him "NOTHING" was made that was made! Scripture does! Not Lon! No, you really cannot. The reason? Simple: You HAVE to ADD to make that...