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Not just what you 'feel' but a fair assessment. Agree. As I said, a fair assessment. It seems on par with Mormonism and Scientology to me 🤔

For the most part, this discussion is about 'containers.' Containers 'hold or contain' things. For God to not know something means there is a container He didn't create nor is a part of. Unless one wants to contest: Infinite means by definition 'nothing else' and 'all that there is.'...

Not quite the equation (if you'll allow, and thank you for a moment). If God 'is' love, it means that all that 'is' love is contained in His being, thus it is ancillary, not identity by principle. What it means is, "God is the definition of 'love,'" but love isn't the 'all' of the expression...

True, not to mention the first wasn't a 'prayer.' The second, John 17:3? You are correct, "Kia" ('and') is a connector grammatically. This is 'why' (scripture givens) we are Trinit-arian (both/somehow one). Scripture says it.

They aren't honking huge discrepancies. Even at the beginning, there were 7 church[es]. While many don't like denominations, it is not bad. Try to pass a $100 bill at a convenience store, sometimes they don't have change because the "denomination" is too big. It isn't always a bad thing...

Er, no. I was just like you. "Love Is All You Need" and "Imagine" is the sentiment of all mankind. You are just spouting a theology of liberalism and "Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together and try to love one another right now." While it is a good call, it isn't...

Er, nice strawman? : Plain: You and the UB make odd little straw men to try and burn and knock down. Yet Jesus wasn't the one actually talking to Dr. Sadler or his cronies.... Ah, a god among many, subject to the cosmos, not a creator God of all things.... Dr. Sadler's carnality is...

It is incorrect. The vast majority of scholars are Christians and do not agree with this assertion. The majority, in fact, do not believe Luke was mistaken. It is irresponsible and unforgivable to deal in untrue commodities. Do you have to resort to hearsay to shore up Dr. Sadler...

It doesn't matter what you told me. It matters 'what Jesus said.' Incorrect. It is all true or 'half' true. Which makes more sense? When committed to an idea? No, you are very wrong. Grammar is correct whether you want it to be or not. I don't have to do anything BUT appeal to the text...

Compare: Luke 2:2 At that time the Emperor Augustus ordered a census of the Roman Empire. 2 This was the first census taken while Quirinius was governor of Syria. 3 All the people went to register in the cities where their ancestors had lived. 4 So Joseph went from Nazareth, a city in Galilee...

Why? What reason? A theological construct? I'm saying contextually and grammatically you cannot rule out 1) that "I Am" is a given and 2) that before Abraham 'was' I 'am.' Only a desire to have a time-constraint upon God would have anybody arguing the point. There is no necessity to...

I'm saying that Jesus said "before Abraham 'was' I 'Am.'" It means 1) I Am and 2 Am Both

It only matters if it is pertinent to the thread. You aren't the one that gets to make that assessment. Part of the NEEDED discussion is what you actually can bring to the table. :sigh: ...attacking the windmills of your own machinations.... No, I don't have to do anything. I've no idea...

It HAS to mean both or neither is true. Both are true.

See, Caino; this is just rationalizing. You've bought a lie simply and only for YOUR sentiments. Long ago, I knew I needed Him, not Him me. Your god is you. You've looked for a religion that demands nothing of you, because, specifically, it is a god in your own image. When I first came...

Agreed. I ignored Keypurr because this thread was never to be banter between us and them, but rather simply the scriptures that one must read and acknowledge. The answer to Keypurr, of course is in scripture: Jesus is both subordinate to the Father, and "One with the Father." He is both...

Few Jews accept Him. Jews no longer have priests so HAVE to believe blood isn't key nor that they need remission of sin. It doesn't help your Urantia preaching gain hold on TOL. Worse: Jews reject the Lord Jesus Christ as Messiah. By association, you are lambasting the Son by going to a...

It shows you and Sadler pick and choose what you want to believe rather than what God dictates. We've been over this enough. You can't have your cake and eat it to. There is no such thing as the Holy Bible with Urantia icing on top. It ruins the message of scripture, busts up its...

To you. You are less than a percent. Who cares what you think? You don't have the where-with-all anyway, so it means fairly next to nothing coming from you. Ask a few more TOL members what they believe and if "Don't import you, export Him" is "ridiculous." You are the one who is...

A bit convoluted. You'll have to unpack this (regardless of how funny it seems to be to you). I can tell you, straight up, you haven't really listened. You attack ideas that nobody presented long before you ever listen. This IS the Unitarian problem more often than not. Again, it is a...